vesa instead intel...

archy · 2011-10-15 07:52:55

Why i'm using VESA dri instead INTEL dri if my card is intel? if remove vesa get no X!

Last edited by archy (2011-10-15 08:25:03)

pablokal · 2011-10-15 13:15:48

See How to install a new video driver: http://wiki.archbang.org/index.php?titl … %27t_Start
Or search this forum were you find this question answered many times over.

archy · 2011-11-28 10:17:47

http://pastebin.com/ZSE02S0B

based on that need to no if i am using Vesa or Intel? i wanna use Intel and if it is possible to erase vesa...

Mr Green · 2011-11-28 10:24:08

http://wiki.archbang.org/index.php?titl … Mode_Guide

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xo … and_driver

You could clean out drivers and start again [first link]

Or read up on how to set up X [second link]

archy · 2011-12-23 11:03:10

archy wrote:

if remove vesa get no X!

This is the exact leyend when i do pacman -R xf86-video-vesa:

(EE) Failed to load module 'vesa' (module does not exist .0)
(EE) " 'fbdev' (module does not exist .0)

WARNING: all config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf .pacnew it will be ignored in a future release

(EE) No devices detected

Fatal server error:
no screens found

:emomad:

ps writing from win$UCK$ [thing that don't like],i expect some miracle command to start with intel-dri...

Last edited by archy (2011-12-23 11:08:55)

pablokal · 2011-12-23 14:17:10

Vesa is the kind of backup that will do the job of nothing else does it.
If it offers the right screen resolution, I wouldn't freak out about it.

You give no info at all what happened when you followed the steps advised above.
For example the output of
lspci | grep VGA

If you don't follow advice, you can't be helped.

archy · 2011-12-23 14:42:44

pablokal wrote:

Vesa is the kind of backup that will do the job of nothing else does it.
If it offers the right screen resolution, I wouldn't freak out about it.
You give no info at all what happened when you followed the steps advised above.
For example the output of
lspci | grep VGA
If you don't follow advice, you can't be helped.

Ok...again...

do i need to delete the vesa and nomodeset options on grub? if the answer is 'yes' then can get functional?

pablokal · 2011-12-23 14:58:33

To begin with the beginning: sometimes grub is set to vesa to make login possible.
Don't expect the system to use the best driver for you videocard in that case.
To edit the grub boot menu you can press the e key and edit the line that has vesa in it and comment that out or with the terminal #nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg and delete XORG-VESA & NOMODESET.

So , yes with a normal and wise install, yes. But..
How can I answer that question if I don't know your exact hardware; what kind of drivers you have installed and uninstalled etc.
You give no info at all what happened when you followed the steps advised above.
For example the output of
lspci | grep VGA

archy · 2011-12-23 15:07:31

pablokal wrote:

To begin with the beginning: sometimes grub is set to vesa to make login possible.
Don't expect the system to use the best driver for you videocard in that case.
To edit the grub boot menu you can press the e key and edit the line that has vesa in it and comment that out or with the terminal #nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg and delete XORG-VESA & NOMODESET.
So , yes with a normal and wise install, yes. But..
How can I answer that question if I don't know your exact hardware; what kind of drivers you have installed and uninstalled etc.
You give no info at all what happened when you followed the steps advised above.
For example the output of
lspci | grep VGA

my video card is Intel so I have installed the right driver that is Intel![xf86-video-intel 2.17.0-2] I just uninstalled xf86-video-vesa then can't get X's,but the INTEL drive is installed!

can you look this a minute: http://pastebin.com/ZSE02S0B
line 7.Kernel command line: root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/fcfa5f7f-370b-4f48-abcb-0c5e3851ce2a loglevel=3 ro quiet resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/2c4d91fc-1f08-4fa8-aa56-8faaafc44235 nomodeset

Last edited by archy (2011-12-23 15:46:46)

pablokal · 2011-12-23 16:09:50

Sorry, but I stop helping you as you seem unable to read and/or communicate: delete XORG-VESA & NOMODESET.
Vesa shouldn't be uninstalled as it is a backup for when the intel driver doesn't work.

archy · 2011-12-28 15:54:37

Thx 4 nada! no matter...reinstalled and running!

archy · 2012-01-02 22:33:14

$ lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)

handy · 2012-01-03 03:29:01

Just like most OS's, sometimes Linux distro's don't install perfectly first time. Which is a total pain in the R's when you are trying to work out what the hell is going on.

Most all of us here have experience with that kind of problem with one OS or another...

That's just life with computers.

archy · 2012-01-03 06:03:08

Yep...but I need answers...I think i'm runing vesa instead intel thing that is not correct!

handy · 2012-01-03 07:50:26

archy wrote:

Yep...but I need answers...I think i'm runing vesa instead intel thing that is not correct!

Probably you are right.

I'm using an ATi 6450/1GB card & I can't use the open-source drivers properly because the card doesn't support the default max resolution of the monitor - 1920x1200.

So instead I get vesa at 1600x1200 which is surely better by a light year than what vesa used to be capable of, & its OK too. BUT I can't play any games, I have bugger all 3D & such & such...

This is the command that told me what my GPU was capable of res' wise:

sudo hwinfo --framebuffer

archy · 2012-01-04 10:21:43

a) SOMEONE CAPABLE CAN TELL ME WHY MY GRUB LEGACY DON'T SHOW XORG-VESA,JUST NOMODESET?

b) DO I HAVE TO GO CANADA TO GET ANSWERS? i changed "vesa" for "intel" IN THE xorg.conf file AND VOILA AGAIN x'S OUT,WHAT I'M DOING WRONG?

c) I NEED TO KNOW IF I AM USING VESA OR INTEL,IS THAT SO DIFFICULT?

oliver · 2012-01-04 11:13:38

archy wrote:

a) SOMEONE CAPABLE CAN TELL ME WHY MY GRUB LEGACY DON'T SHOW XORG-VESA,JUST NOMODESET?
b) DO I HAVE TO GO CANADA TO GET ANSWERS? i changed "vesa" for "intel" IN THE xorg.conf file AND VOILA AGAIN x'S OUT,WHAT I'M DOING WRONG?
c) I NEED TO KNOW IF I AM USING VESA OR INTEL,IS THAT SO DIFFICULT?

Take this with a pinch of salt because I don't really understand it myself but:

a) I think NOMODESET is needed when the VESA driver is used. Not sure about XORG-VESA, I've never had to use it and I don't remember seeing it before

b) See (a)... If you're not using VESA, try removing this line

c) Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and grep for vesa and intel

If I were you, I would do the following:

1) make sure you have both the intel and vesa drivers installed.
2) put intel in the /etc/xorg.d/ gpu file

Reboot

When you see the GRUB screen, hit 'e' to edit the kernel line and remove the nomodeset line... if all is good, make it permanent after booting by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst

archy · 2012-01-04 11:38:24

oliver wrote:

c) Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and grep for vesa and intel
If I were you, I would do the following:
1) make sure you have both the intel and vesa drivers installed.
2) put intel in the /etc/xorg.d/ gpu file
Reboot
When you see the GRUB screen, hit 'e' to edit the kernel line and remove the nomodeset line... if all is good, make it permanent after booting by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst

thx homie 4 the replay!

for parts:

may you take a looky at this: http://pastebin.com/ZSE02S0B

definitly have it both!

what I have is: etc/X11/ ==> xinit and xorg.conf.d ==> 20-gpudriver.conf

when I put "intel" instead "vesa" [in 20-gpudriver.conf] get no X's(without touching anything else)

just ask me whatever info u need to solve this...

thx in advance!

Last edited by archy (2012-01-04 11:44:16)

Mr Green · 2012-01-04 11:51:55

post output of

pacman -Qi xf86-video-intel

post your 20-gpudriver.conf as well

archy · 2012-01-04 11:56:40

Mr Green wrote:

post output of
pacman -Qi xf86-video-intel
post your 20-gpudriver.conf as well

pacman -Qi xf86-video-intel

 $ pacman -Qi xf86-video-intel
Name           : xf86-video-intel
Version        : 2.17.0-2
URL            : http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
Licenses       : custom
Groups         : xorg-drivers  xorg
Provides       : None
Depends On     : intel-dri  libxvmc  libpciaccess  libdrm  xcb-util>=0.3.8  libxfixes  udev
Optional Deps  : None
Required By    : None
Conflicts With : xorg-server<1.10.99.902  xf86-video-i810  xf86-video-intel-legacy
Replaces       : None
Installed Size : 800.00 K
Packager       : Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org>
Architecture   : i686
Build Date     : Fri 25 Nov 2011 10:53:05 AM CST
Install Date   : Sun 01 Jan 2012 09:49:55 AM CST
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : No
Description    : X.org Intel i810/i830/i915/945G/G965+ video drivers

20-gpudriver.conf

 Section "Device"
	Identifier "Card0"
	Driver     "vesa"
EndSection

'hwinfo --gfxcard'

$ hwinfo --gfxcard
bash: hwinfo: command not found

Last edited by archy (2012-01-04 12:03:33)

Mr Green · 2012-01-04 12:05:46

[    10.866] (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[    10.893] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
	Using a default monitor configuration.
[    11.759] (II) VESA(0): <default monitor>: Using hsync range of 31.47-60.02 kHz
[    11.759] (II) VESA(0): <default monitor>: Using vrefresh range of 56.25-75.03

[    11.413] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1
[    11.510] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[    11.511] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[    11.612] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    11.614] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[    11.621] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so

[    11.413] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
[    11.413] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[    11.413] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[    11.510] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    11.613] (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,

Got a feeling your config is not set up correctly

archy · 2012-01-04 12:13:32

Mr Green wrote:

Got a feeling your config is not set up correctly

Yep I think so! can you help me configuring one?

btw sir...excuse me! I've to tell you that reinstalled few days ago so that "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" i think is not relevant now

Last edited by archy (2012-01-04 12:18:53)

Mr Green · 2012-01-04 12:17:47

Looking to see if I have a intel based device....

Just tried Archbang on my other halfs laptop, selected Xorg autodetect option at boot and screen resolution is fine

There are no configs for driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Try Archbang live see if your screen settings are ok

archy · 2012-01-04 13:25:46

Ain't complainig bout 'resolutions'...I am complaining bout using "vesa" driver instead "intel" driver

it is possible no one uses intel dri between all the AB users? unbelievable!

Last edited by archy (2012-01-04 13:27:14)

oliver · 2012-01-04 13:54:14

can you switch vesa to intel in 20-gpudriver.conf and remove the nomodeset option from /boot/grub/menu.lst and then reboot

Don't worry if the boot text is ugly - that can be fixed

Mr Green · 2012-01-04 14:36:45

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel

Might be worth reading....

pablokal · 2012-01-04 14:51:40

a) SOMEONE CAPABLE CAN TELL ME WHY MY GRUB LEGACY DON'T SHOW XORG-VESA,JUST NOMODESET?
b) DO I HAVE TO GO CANADA TO GET ANSWERS? i changed "vesa" for "intel" IN THE xorg.conf file AND VOILA AGAIN x'S OUT,WHAT I'M DOING WRONG?
c) I NEED TO KNOW IF I AM USING VESA OR INTEL,IS THAT SO DIFFICULT?

This tone is unacceptable. All these questions are answered. Of you're not capable to understand the answers or to read them, choose another distribution and forum.
Topic closed. When you respond once more in this fashion you will be banned.

Prit (aka sHy) · 2012-01-04 19:33:14

Dear archy,
This is your final warning. If you continue to post in this tone I will personally ban you. We are a small group of Linux enthusiast who in our spare time try and contribute as much as we can. So we don't appreciate your demeanor here at the forum.

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