Favorit Operating System

tools · 2011-09-13 06:06:44

I know most in heir properly would answer ArchBang, but what are you favorite Operating System / Distribution, to do following things:
- Server
- Desktop
- Laptop
- NetBook
- Tablet
- Smart Phone
- FirewWall
- Media Center
- Development

And off cause the reason why:
- Server
FreeBSD 'cause it stable, easy to use and I can easily setup a email and website server with ruby on rails

- Desktop
Well I am actually a bit 'cause I love the way Mac OS X works and the stability and it is a power full OS for development in JAVA, RUBY and Obj-C and editing audio, movie and photos, but I also love SlackWare 13.37 as desktop distribution, also for the reasons of stability and 'cause I can run a floor less OpenBox environment and developer C and C++ which I prefer to do on Linux.

- Laptop
Clearly Mac OS X it is stable, great power management, extremely powerful photo editing on the go and they are actually very powerful to use for development

- NetBook
Clearly ArchBang it runs without problems and has support for almost all the drivers I needed as standard, runs extremely stable for a system on a NetBook

- Tablet
Android 'cause I think iOS just don't work on the iPad

- Smart Phone
iOS, I my opinion Android needs to much resources to run properly on a phone, where on the other hand iOS runs smoothly and has a brilliant power manager, compared to Android

- FirewWall
pfSense 'cause it is the only one I have tried yet

- Media Center
MythBuntu 'cause I haven't been able to find a .rpm distro which can beat it, simple and intuitive

- Development
Well I am a bit split between Mac OS X and SlackWare off cause since I develop for the iOS I need a Mac but I prefer to developer C and C++ on SlackWare

So what is your favorite distro ? to the diffrent things

lrcaballero · 2011-09-22 12:04:37

tools wrote:

I know most in heir properly would answer ArchBang, but what are you favorite Operating System / Distribution, to do following things:
- Server
- Desktop
- Laptop
- NetBook
- Tablet
- Smart Phone
- FirewWall
- Media Center
- Development
And off cause the reason why:
- Server
FreeBSD 'cause it stable, easy to use and I can easily setup a email and website server with ruby on rails
- Desktop
Well I am actually a bit 'cause I love the way Mac OS X works and the stability and it is a power full OS for development in JAVA, RUBY and Obj-C and editing audio, movie and photos, but I also love SlackWare 13.37 as desktop distribution, also for the reasons of stability and 'cause I can run a floor less OpenBox environment and developer C and C++ which I prefer to do on Linux.
- Laptop
Clearly Mac OS X it is stable, great power management, extremely powerful photo editing on the go and they are actually very powerful to use for development

- NetBook
Clearly ArchBang it runs without problems and has support for almost all the drivers I needed as standard, runs extremely stable for a system on a NetBook
- Tablet
Android 'cause I think iOS just don't work on the iPad
- Smart Phone
iOS, I my opinion Android needs to much resources to run properly on a phone, where on the other hand iOS runs smoothly and has a brilliant power manager, compared to Android

- FirewWall
pfSense 'cause it is the only one I have tried yet
- Media Center
MythBuntu 'cause I haven't been able to find a .rpm distro which can beat it, simple and intuitive
- Development
Well I am a bit split between Mac OS X and SlackWare off cause since I develop for the iOS I need a Mac but I prefer to developer C and C++ on SlackWare
So what is your favorite distro ? to the diffrent things

@tools

If you are Running FreeBSD on Servers than be assure that under the hood you are running FreeBSD in you MAC OS X.

click here....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD

Luis

Last edited by lrcaballero (2011-09-22 13:35:21)

archy · 2011-09-25 10:05:02

By now ARCHBANG!

btw...who invented/did/whatever this awesome distro?

i think this minidistro kick archlinux's ass...i feel it a little 'faster' than arch or i'm wrong?

ArchVortex · 2011-09-25 11:08:33

Faster than Arch? ArchBang is Arch + Openbox. The Openbox desktop is fast. Arch + Fluxbox is fast. Arch + LXDE is fast. These are lightweight desktops. Comparatively, Arch + KDE or Arch + Gnome are slower because they are heavier desktops requiring more RAM to operate.

archy · 2011-09-26 08:11:42

Yep! but...[bold] KDE/gnomo3[/bold] are another thing sir...(and don't wanna flame)

kazuya · 2011-09-29 07:31:46

Archbang without a shadow of a doubt for me.
Recently, I am starting to fall for Sabayon as well again. Used to love it back when it was still called RR Linux I believe. It brought gentoo goodness.
I am trying it out for fun and comparison merely because it supposedly has a modified version of XFCE that looks like gnome 2.

I installed the LXDE desktop of Sabayon last night. It is a very capable OS and looks very good too.

oliver · 2011-09-29 09:19:39

kazuya wrote:

Archbang without a shadow of a doubt for me.
Recently, I am starting to fall for Sabayon as well again. Used to love it back when it was still called RR Linux I believe. It brought gentoo goodness.
I am trying it out for fun and comparison merely because it supposedly has a modified version of XFCE that looks like gnome 2.
I installed the LXDE desktop of Sabayon last night. It is a very capable OS and looks very good too.

I used Sabayon for a while but couldn't resist trying to 'emerge -uDav world' and royally messed it up. I know it's recommended never to do that due to all the customizations but I have to follow the Gentoo adage of 'if it ain't broke, recompile it anyway'

Mr Green · 2011-09-29 09:44:45

archvortex wrote:

Faster than Arch? ArchBang is Arch + Openbox. The Openbox desktop is fast. Arch + Fluxbox is fast. Arch + LXDE is fast. These are lightweight desktops. Comparatively, Arch + KDE or Arch + Gnome are slower because they are heavier desktops requiring more RAM to operate.

Tiny Core hands down.....

ArchVortex · 2011-09-29 09:47:43

oliver wrote:

but I have to follow the Gentoo adage of 'if it ain't broke, recompile it anyway'

+1

Fabio and Joost do a great job getting all the different desktops working on that Sabayon layer. I really enjoy using Sabayon but most spins are too bloated for my taste with all the extra packages and dependencies to make it OOTB. And the repositories were slow for me quite often. I have a soft spot for Sabayon but I love Arch too much.

ArchVortex · 2011-09-29 09:52:44

@Mr Green

LOL!! Anything that runs entirely in RAM!!

oliver · 2011-09-29 09:53:06

archvortex wrote:

I have a soft spot for Sabayon but I love Arch too much.

Thats it exactly for me too... I do have to say that Sabayon is the nicest looking distro (in terms of eye-candy) I've ever seen... the grub screen, splash-images and backgrounds are a work of art.

Mr Green · 2011-09-29 09:59:10

archvortex wrote:

@Mr Green
LOL!! Anything that runs entirely in RAM!!

It is fast until you load it with apps then Archbang wins!!!!

ArchVortex · 2011-09-29 10:13:30

@oliver, I prefer the 5.5 and 5.3 artwork to the Sabayon 6 stuff. I keep thinking about changing my Gentoo desktop to another distro but I just can't leave Gentoo. If I did, it would probably be to Sabayon. Either the LXDE or E-17. It took me awhile to get the E-17 configured right, especially the nm-applet to stay in the tray but it was fun running it.

kazuya · 2011-09-29 17:12:35

oliver wrote:

kazuya wrote:
Archbang without a shadow of a doubt for me.
Recently, I am starting to fall for Sabayon as well again. Used to love it back when it was still called RR Linux I believe. It brought gentoo goodness.
I am trying it out for fun and comparison merely because it supposedly has a modified version of XFCE that looks like gnome 2.
I installed the LXDE desktop of Sabayon last night. It is a very capable OS and looks very good too.

I used Sabayon for a while but couldn't resist trying to 'emerge -uDav world' and royally messed it up. I know it's recommended never to do that due to all the customizations but I have to follow the Gentoo adage of 'if it ain't broke, recompile it anyway'

Haha. Thanks for the heads up. You pretty much read my mind. I forsee doing that inspite of the warning. lol.
I am curious to see how it all plays out. Eventually, I am sure it is back to archbang install. I keep the same preferences for my home or user accounts on seperate partitions. Just curious.

The package manager is significantly slower than arch's pacman. I already love the feel of the LXDE desktop there. Going to try to do some true benchmarking of the my sabayon install versus archbang install with the same DEs. Should be fun.

The Mint, Crunchbang, and Ubuntu are significantly slower than archbang and sabayon.

Salix is fast also, but does not seem as polished in my eyes (personal opinion). Especially when using flashplayer and the browsers.

oliver · 2011-09-30 06:29:18

archvortex wrote:

@oliver, I prefer the 5.5 and 5.3 artwork to the Sabayon 6 stuff. I keep thinking about changing my Gentoo desktop to another distro but I just can't leave Gentoo. If I did, it would probably be to Sabayon. Either the LXDE or E-17. It took me awhile to get the E-17 configured right, especially the nm-applet to stay in the tray but it was fun running it.

I haven't used it since 4.x so I'm not really up to date on the aesthetics now. I, too, thought I'd never leave gentoo but as my hardware got older and older I would dread seeing the updates and know the CPU would be at 100% CPU for the next 4 hours. If I was a hardware junkie I'd probably still be on it.

I know it will never happen, but "use" flags in Arch would be fantastic and make Arch perfect IMO (i.e. anytime you had a "use" flag specified the app would compile from source with those flags taken into account. I know I can use ABS (and I do) but it's missing something to tie it all in

archy · 2011-10-02 08:22:53

archvortex wrote:

Anything that runs entirely in RAM!!

SLITAZ is nice nice very nice...

http://www.slitaz.org/

ArchVortex · 2011-10-02 08:52:50

@ oliver sometimes when I go from Gentoo to Arch I forget and pacman --update --deep --newuse world or pacman --pretend some package. hahaha! I agree about the flags.

@ archy thanks for reminding me about Slitaz. I played with it a bit last year and should try it again on my Vbox

oliver · 2011-10-02 18:59:35

archvortex wrote:

@ oliver sometimes when I go from Gentoo to Arch I forget and pacman --update --deep --newuse world or pacman --pretend some package. hahaha! I agree about the flags.

:-)

I wrote a quick and dirty script to check for .pacnew files and called it etc-update to remind me of the good old gentoo days

scjet · 2011-10-07 11:00:04

please don't get me going on this but:
Server:? hands down Sun Microsystems Solaris/OpenSolaris was, is and for the near future should have been (with ZFS) the best NetOS out there.
A truly Free/Open/Universal ZFS (filesystem) would have been the best solution for all OS's, but hey, that's dead now,
no thanks to Oracle, "KILLING" everything, and making it non-Free, that Sun left behind,... but hey, it's a business right ? so f_k-it.

I give

Server: (which my experience is limited, and may be based in the past as well, but)
1st: Sun Solaris (hands down this sucker never died/crashed/or quit. -it truly was/is that stable)
2nd: OpenBSD
3rd: CentOS, Or Arch (I'm not sure which one yet)

Desktop: ARCH all the way baby, Arch and ya, I'm working on a FreeBSD+OpenBOX, and it should be aptly named "FreeBang" -get it? -don't worry, you don't have to pay for it"
Ha ha.

-unfortunately *BSD suffers from lack of certain drivers' still, lack of Adobe Flash, ...
It's still doable, as a desktop, via Linuxolater ports, in fact, she'll run a Linux kernel/Apps better and much faster than some Linux distro's do today, still.
But, it's a lotta un-thankfull work to even attempt this, I dunno?

Laptop: same as above (as long as the Video chipsets are nvidia)

- NetBook (don't care, I like a big screen)
- Tablet (I don't care, I like a bigger screen)
- Smart Phone (I really don't care)

-FirewWall: uhh you can buy them cheap now. (but ok, OpenBSD's/PF)

- Media Center: (again, Arch plays ALL me media needs)
- Development: (well, anything with a large comfortable screen/keyboard/... Arch again, to develop useful, and quality-oriented stuff)

But my real Desktop/OS of choice is the very latest MacBook and MacOSX, but since I can't afford it, I'll stick with Arch on the best PC scrappy-parts I can find.

Last edited by scjet (2011-10-07 11:08:18)

lrcaballero · 2011-10-07 11:35:58

@scjet

+1 OpenSolaris by far one of my best experiences in the UNIX / Linux world along with AB!

I have played with DesktopBSD (no longer been supported for what I understand), PC-BSD (way to bloaded... too slow for my taste) but they have new things like Flashplayer & ZFS coming up on their new realese Isotope V 9.0) and GhostBSD (FreeBSD + Gnome) http://ghostbsd.org/, very cool project fairly new and small but growing on a daily basis. I'm definitely going to try their new release 2.5 based on FreeBSD 9.0 to add more to my BSD experience.

Have a wonderful day,

Luis Caballero

oliver · 2011-10-07 11:57:53

scjet wrote:

1st: Sun Solaris (hands down this sucker never died/crashed/or quit. -it truly was/is that stable)

I agree... we have Solaris boxes at work with 1200 day uptimes - they're still going strong and crunching out transactions. You only need to reboot on bad hardware (and the Sun hardware is/was expensive but they must have tested it thoroughly because it seems to either be DOA or works forever.)

scjet · 2011-10-07 12:03:02

lrcaballero wrote:

@scjet
+1 OpenSolaris by far one of my best experiences in the UNIX / Linux world along with AB!
I have played with DesktopBSD (no longer been supported for what I understand), PC-BSD (way to bloaded... too slow for my taste) but they have new things like Flashplayer & ZFS coming up on their new realese Isotope V 9.0) and GhostBSD (FreeBSD + Gnome) http://ghostbsd.org/, very cool project fairly new and small but growing on a daily basis. I'm definitely going to try their new release 2.5 based on FreeBSD 9.0 to add more to my BSD experience.
Have a wonderful day,
Luis Caballero

hey Hi, and glad you liked OpenSolaris.

btw: OpenSolaris is now OpeIndiana again, as you probably know (thanks to those criminally corporate Oracle ppl)

http://openindiana.org/

anyway, Flash player, in BSD, is still a total pain -thanks to Adobe.. too -pfft.
However, FreeBSD can still beat Ubuntu, in it's own backyard (with equal-hardware) and Nvidia-Garphics-which has excellent FreeBSD driver's for):
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a … _bsd&num=1

So ya, all is not lost yet, even with an alternative like OpenSolaris/Indiana still kicking around.

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lrcaballero · 2011-10-09 17:24:47

@scjet

This one is for you...I am having lots of fun with AB! 2011.10

Luis

Last edited by lrcaballero (2011-10-10 09:36:03)

scjet · 2011-10-14 12:11:38

lrcaballero wrote:

@scjet
This one is for you...I am having lots of fun with AB! 2011.10
...
Luis

Lol, I hear ya, and so am I, but where is your "uname -a" ?
Here's a 1 up on that, nevermind FreeBSD, how 'bout a "real" OpenBSD snapshot 5.0 on OB's screenshot site:

http://openbox.org/wiki/Openbox:Screenshots

Mines' at the bottom, OpenBSD 5.0 (snapshot) with Openbox 3.4.1, conky, tint2, nitrogen, urvxt.
The Conky is slightly modified from Archbang, and there's no *compmgr/compiz of course, and Adobe-flashplugins are non-existent here, but most all of the other configs , including tint2,... is taken right from Archbang. I didn't spend enough time with this OpenBSD desktop.
Nonetheless, it's not as nice n' flowing as Archie ('cause OpenBSD does NOT allow any proprietary drivers' to taint their BSD kernel, by default, + the drivers' in BSD, with respect, are not potentially there). It's not somethin' that we don't know, and Xorg stuff is just fine.
but hey, it works ok.

One of these days, I might change that wallpaper to "Openbang!"
Either way, Openbox is a tribute, and proof to "all" Linux, and BSD/Unix's alike everywhere, that we don't need that much to enjoy our fav distro(s) of choice, no matter what they are.

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ArchVortex · 2011-10-17 04:16:59

Tested Sabayon 7 XFCE and while, it ran smoothly, it took up 9.8 GB of root for installation and idled between 150-170 MB of RAM. Compared to my current loaded AB with 3.3 GB of root used and idling between 48 - 53 MB of RAM. Hmmm. Which one do I prefer?

ArchVortex · 2011-10-25 10:57:03

Just tried Crux, Toorox and Calculate Linux. Meh. Next up, Foresight, Chakra's latest and Puppy 5.3 Slacko.

Keta · 2011-10-25 12:56:16

Desktop1: Arch Linux KDE
Desktop2: Arch Linux XFCE4

Server: Ubuntu 10.04 ^^

Smartphone : iOS

TForsman · 2011-10-25 15:17:18

ArchVortex wrote:

Just tried Crux, Toorox and Calculate Linux. Meh. Next up, Foresight, Chakra's latest and Puppy 5.3 Slacko.

I hope you give Foresight Linux a good chance. As the power is in conary

oliver · 2011-10-25 18:51:27

TForsman wrote:

I hope you give Foresight Linux a good chance. As the power is in conary

Does anyone else listen to the Linux Outlaws podcast? Now I'm hearing presenter Dan saying everything in his Sean Connery voice.... "I inshtall my shoftware via conary"

pablokal · 2011-10-26 03:32:38

As a Linux distribution, Foresight sets itself apart by eliminating the need for the user to be familiar with Linux,

The question is if I want that myself. And if I wish that for other users; what I want and seek in Linux is empowerment of the user.
What really attracts me to Arch that it empowers it the user so much by the way it gives insight and control over basic configuration and set up.

But the conary package management system seems very eco-friendly (it is ridiculous how much bandwidth I use updating my system) in that it minimizes the size of update packages. The rollback feature also seems great.

But" Conary's built-in dependency resolution brings in only the components needed from other packages instead of entire packages. "(http://wiki.rpath.com/wiki/Conary) - this might have the consequence that we lose control over the vanilla quality of packages and lose the original configurability. This is just a hypothesis, a question I wonder about.

There is a lot of cloud in this set up and I'm like FSF very much against dependence of the cloud as you lose control over software and personal data. If you want conary to rollback the default is via the cloud. If you want to be able to do it offline you have change Conary's default setting:

To be able to use rollback offline, without internet, you need to activate that function.
Open terminal, Applications > Accessories > Terminal, then write:

sudo gedit /etc/conary/config.d/localRollback
Write in:
localRollbacks True

If I look at the many situations I experienced that being offline was one of the mayor aspects of being in problems, I would never want a rollback feature to be in the cloud. Why would you make cloud dependence the default for the inexperienced user you are addressing?

This criticism is meant to be supportive; I think it is great new ways are tried and used. Lots of success with Foresight!!

@ Forsman: I found two links not working on the intrtoduction page (http://www.foresightlinux.se/en/introduction):
http://wiki.foresightlinux.org/display/ … nvironment
http://wiki.foresightlinux.org/display/ … ng+Example

TForsman · 2011-10-26 04:13:57

Fixed links, thanks for pointing them out. Will update build env link later, need a little tweaking. (not much though)

A updated intro for Foresight: http://www.foresightlinux.se/en/blog/in … ight-linux might be better to read that.

Also just done writing: http://www.foresightlinux.se/en/blog/ge … nux-part-i

Last edited by TForsman (2011-10-26 05:06:59)

TForsman · 2011-10-26 08:55:51

pablokal wrote:

this might have the consequence that we lose control over the vanilla quality of packages and lose the original configurability. This is just a hypothesis, a question I wonder about.

bringing in only the needed components does not prevent you from adding the remaining components. if a package has a runtime and a library, and some other package needs the library then only the library is installed. but that is the same as if you would manually split the package.

if you want the runtime part too, all you need to do is to install it.
foresight packages as close to upstream as possible. we don't impose any custom configuration unless necessary to make the thing work.
the components of a package are determined automatically for runtime, lib, devel and docs and specific language runtimes (like perl or python)

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ArchVortex · 2011-10-26 23:06:52

TForsman wrote:

I hope you give Foresight Linux a good chance. As the power is in conary

I'm looking forward to trying conary. I usually run an OS for a month to give a fair chance unless I'm already familiar with it and just trying a new release.

I have no luck with Chakra. This is the fifth time it's failed for me. I don't like to give up but in this case I will. Hangs, crashes, problems installing bundles, etc. It's a beautiful distro but it just doesn't work for me.

scjet · 2012-02-11 01:06:13

I noticed no one has really mentioned their experience with CentOS ?
I have worked with CentOS, at a limited server level, no desktop, just clean CLI's.

but CentOS as a Desktop ?

benney_swet · 2012-06-14 21:21:36

I like A red hat systemunix program because:

Piping purchases together
man pages
yum and RPMs
A management line
Log files
vi
It's free

... and I don't understand anything about PCs anymore.

Ninja-1 · 2012-06-14 22:26:48

- Server
Debian, it's stable and has tons of documentation and support. It's what I run on my home servers.

- Desktop & Laptop
Arch.

- Netbook
Don't have one, but probably Arch or Peppermint.

- Tablet
Don't have one, but Android because I've used both iOS and Android on phones, and used a third-gen iPad which iOS doesn't seem to fit really.

- Smart Phone
Android, just switched from iOS to Android and I'm loving all the features (even built-in) that iOS couldn't get even with extra apps. Also, I hate Apple, and iOS 5 & 6 seem to be playing catch-up to Android. iOS is smoother at some things though.

- Firewall
DD-WRT on the routers.

- Media Center
Currently Windows 7 because Netflix doesn't run on Linux.

- Development
I do development on Arch with no issues. I do Python, HTML/CSS, and learning Mono/C# (and probably Java at some point because of Android development).

axel668 · 2012-06-15 03:15:54

Server: Debian Stable
End User / Family PCs and Laptops, newer Hardware: LinuxMint Debian XFCE
End User / Family PCs and Laptops, older Hardware / Netbooks: Crunchbang Linux (also based on Debian Stable)
My own Laptop and interested / advanced Linux users: Archbang + DE of choice (XFCE in my case)

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