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#1 2011-09-20 08:15:03

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AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Maybe not a bug but terminal seems to be borderless ....... got figure out how to move it....

EDIT I found it

Quick install and all is good, not figured out my keyboard layout yet [UK] changed xorg config from us to uk rebooted but still us keyboard

Still working my way through apps, not sure I like default theme [but easily changed]

Terminal has gone all girly and pretty YUK!

MrG

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#2 2011-09-20 09:32:10

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

@MrGreen - did you try 'setxkbmap gb' in your .xinitrc?

For me the minimize, maximize, close buttons on some windows are sometimes blacked out (e.g. when running terminator), any idea how to fix it?

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#3 2011-09-20 09:55:32

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

ArchBang 2011.10 RC:

I tried cd install, and then tried copy-to-ram install. It does not even get anywhere.
The screen is a jumble of coloured dashes,.... ?
(yes, it maybe my PC hardware, but when I use "archlinux-2011.08.19-netinstall-x86_64.iso" I have NO problems whatsoever. ?!)

so what gives,?, too many convoluted Video card drivers ?, anyone else getting this  ?
I will test it with older Archbang (2011.02) which obviously seems the most reliable right now, and I'll get back yo you's all.
thx.

sry, but I goota ask this now, but what are you guys developing/testing this release on, some archaic laptop ?
weird eh?

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#4 2011-09-20 10:20:38

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

ArchBang 2011.02 -> ok, so I tried this "same" system/PC with ArchBang 2011.02 and everything works fine,
It's confirmed.
I'm sry, I'm actually trying to help here, but as far as ArchBang 2011.10 RC goes, I can't even see anything after boot up?", on the same system that (2011.09) and  a 100 other Linux distro's, including older ArchBang'd see just fine.
In fact, this just proves that this is obviously NOT a hardware issue at all.

So how can I help with an installation that goes nowhere ?
This (2011.10-RC for me) thing is a dud fer' sure.
wow, this is NOT cool now. Or, is it possible that these "forced" newer nv/nouveau, less than acceptable, xorg/xf86 crap is causing some major problems for many Video cards, in my case Nvidia 8600GT (which again, works flawlesly with your choice of any of the other 100 other Linux Distor's ? smile
or, as Bill Shatner says: "Weird Or What" ?!
sad
any suggestions?
thx again.

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#5 2011-09-20 10:25:13

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

fcuk112 wrote:

@MrGreen - did you try 'setxkbmap gb' in your .xinitrc?

For me the minimize, maximize, close buttons on some windows are sometimes blacked out (e.g. when running terminator), any idea how to fix it?

I was in a rush to get install working thanks for the heads up....

EDIT I love the moving windows with Super + Arrow keys... very very very cool

MrG

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#6 2011-09-20 11:53:47

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

scjet wrote:

I can't even see anything after boot up

even in failsafe mode? If failsafe mode fails you, no worries big_smile
Behold! I have written a Xorg "desperate mode" guide

in 2011.02, the drivers included were

xorg-video-drivers
xf86-video-nouveau
nouveau-dri
nouveau-firmware

but since 2011.09, I've removed the nouveau drivers and only have those included in xorg's group smile

fcuk112 wrote:

the minimize, maximize, close buttons on some windows are sometimes blacked out, any idea how to fix it?

Angelina OB theme by trapd00r is like this. You see them when the window doesn't have the focus lol

Mr Green wrote:

Terminal has gone all girly and pretty YUK!

I like your honesty but it's impossible to please everyone. Some complained that AB was too dark lol so I had to balance stuff w/ this old .bashrc from AB - Apeiro

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#7 2011-09-20 17:48:51

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

@willextreme: really like http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Tu … ent=120386.  have you seen this before?  would love to see it built into archbang, along with the snap (artwiz-fonts) for the conky config and window headers.  no biggie, know it's a matter of taste, just a suggestion.  keep up the great work!

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#8 2011-09-20 18:07:24

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

fcuk112 wrote:

@willextreme: really like http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Tu … ent=120386.  have you seen this before?  would love to see it built into archbang, along with the snap (artwiz-fonts) for the conky config and window headers.  no biggie, know it's a matter of taste, just a suggestion.  keep up the great work!

pretty slick + I like cyan (I'll keep that theme in mind thanks)
Now back to the subject, post encountered bugs people big_smile /cheer

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#9 2011-09-20 21:04:41

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

willxtreme wrote:
scjet wrote:

I can't even see anything after boot up

even in failsafe mode? If failsafe mode fails you, no worries big_smile
Behold! I have written a Xorg "desperate mode" guide

in 2011.02, the drivers included were

xorg-video-drivers
xf86-video-nouveau
nouveau-dri
nouveau-firmware

but since 2011.09, I've removed the nouveau drivers and only have those included in xorg's group smile

________________________________________________________

thx Willy,

I will check out your above suggestions,

Ok, so it's just a video driver,  no probs....
-in the meantime I borrowed my friends el-cheapo "Nvidia GT 520" card, and now  "ArchBang 2011.10-RC x86_64" atleast boots successfully (non-Failsafe CD or, Copy To Ram) -go figure eh?

(and Yes, btw,  In "Failsafe" (with Copy To Ram) it did boot up successfully,  but later, "Installation Failed" ...-see below.)

But, in either case,
When I BOOT (via the Boot Menu) and choose -> Failsafe with Copy To Ram, or non-Failsafe with Copy To Ram" :
after successfully doing Step 2 -> Disk(s) preparation: "df -kT"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Filesystem                  Type     1K-blocks    Used Available Use% Mounted on
udev                        devtmpfs     10240       0     10240   0% /dev
run                         tmpfs        10240     244      9996   3% /run
/dev/mapper/arch_root-image ext4       4063936 1890904   2173032  47% /
shm                         tmpfs      2029820     140   2029680   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs                       tmpfs      2029820      20   2029800   1% /tmp
/dev/sda2                   ext4     103212320  198124  97771316   1% /mnt/install
/dev/sda4                   ext4      95404844  192176  90366336   1% /mnt/install/home
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Step 3 -> Install system

"Installation Failed !"    ???
------------------------------------------------------

[UPDATE] :
But, of course, if I do NOT use "Copy To Ram", and instead, just simply BOOT -> Failsafe, (via CD) it will successfuly Install ...

Summarily, Installing via "Copy To Ram" still does not work. (just to re-cap: This wonderful "copy-to-ram" worked flawlessly with good old "Archbang 2011.02" smile
I assume this uses the "cp2ram" from Arch ?

Soo, I'm not sure what's goin' on with the ability to ... "Copy To Ram" -> then Install ... but Installation fails. ?
- also,  tailed "everything.log", but all it showed was the successful mounts as above....
-someone in the previous bug thread mentioned something about deleteing the "device mappers", but maybe that's a diffferent issue ?
hopefully copy-to-ram gets fixed in the upcoming 2011.10

Thanks again. and sry for all these edit's.

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#10 2011-09-20 23:09:58

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Will,

When are you going to open a feedback thread for the 2011.10-RC? big_smile


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#11 2011-09-20 23:31:13

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

willxtreme wrote:
Mr Green wrote:

Terminal has gone all girly and pretty YUK!

I like your honesty but it's impossible to please everyone. Some complained that AB was too dark lol so I had to balance stuff w/ this old .bashrc from AB - Apeiro

Merely an observation, certainly not a complaint or a bug. I can simply change it

Once I get Transparency working I will have the coolest Openbox desktop around smile

Great Work


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#12 2011-09-21 00:14:45

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

I don't know if these are bugs and also just 1 comment (#4) so here we go:

1) mirrorlist is still uncommented
2) missing mirrors in your generated mirrorlist (my fastest mirror, internode is not listed in Australia and is the major mirror in Australia)
3) installation of packages in the installer took a lot longer than usual ( 20 minutes). Ran an install again and it took the same amount of time in the second install
4) uxrvt terminal - bad choice for the installer, theme (WTF?) looks horrible and what's with entering commands being moved down to the next line with an =>? No border or buttons to close the terminal. Confusing for new users and those that have never used uxrvt terminal.

Other than that every else runs smoothly big_smile And did I mention the theme? Oh yes, already. tongue

P.S. I've already updated  everything in the Wiki for this release yesterday and added your Xorg desperate mode guide and the rxvt-unicode terminal


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#13 2011-09-21 00:28:05

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

@archvortex took my a while to figure new terminal, Super + Arrows move it around and you Max/Min using keyboard too, close it with Alt-F4 [but you already knew all that smile]

Having a border or borderless option would be a better idea [Decor or no Decor?]

Install went fine here 5 minutes job done


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#14 2011-09-21 01:17:12

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Mr Green,

I've used it before so for me it's no problem. For new users or those new to the terminal, it is not like gnome, lxterminal, konsole, etc. and they may freak out with no scrollbar or border yikes


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#15 2011-09-21 03:41:28

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

archvortex wrote:

Will,

When are you going to open a feedback thread for the 2011.10-RC? big_smile

Now
From now on there'll be a bug thread and feedback thread with each release lol

archvortex wrote:

I don't know if these are bugs and also just 1 comment (#4) so here we go:

1) mirrorlist is still uncommented
2) missing mirrors in your generated mirrorlist (my fastest mirror, internode is not listed in Australia and is the major mirror in Australia)
3) installation of packages in the installer took a lot longer than usual ( 20 minutes). Ran an install again and it took the same amount of time in the second install
4) uxrvt terminal - bad choice for the installer, theme (WTF?) looks horrible and what's with entering commands being moved down to the next line with an =>? No border or buttons to close the terminal. Confusing for new users and those that have never used uxrvt terminal.

Other than that every else runs smoothly big_smile And did I mention the theme? Oh yes, already. tongue

P.S. I've already updated  everything in the Wiki for this release yesterday and added your Xorg desperate mode guide and the rxvt-unicode terminal

Yeah back in 2011.02, files would be extracted as you unsquash the root-image

cd $DESTDIR && unsquashfs -da 32 -fr 32 -d . /bootmnt/arch/i686/root-image.sqfs

but since then things changed and you get a .fs after unsquashing that you need to mount and then copy the files which is longer

mkdir -p $DESTDIR/bypass
(cd $DESTDIR && unsquashfs -da 32 -fr 32 -d ./vomi /bootmnt/arch/${arch}/root-image.fs.sfs && mount vomi/root-image.fs $DESTDIR/bypass && echo -e "\n Now copying files :D" && cp -raf $DESTDIR/bypass/* $DESTDIR/ &>/dev/null)]

-I have this month's latest mirrors generated by
http://www.archlinux.org/mirrorlist/all/
Sorry if your good old mirror isn't included in there

-All mirrors are uncommented on purpose for pacman to work OOB in a live session
w/ throttled servers removed

-I admit a bordeless terminal by default is not user friendly. I'll change 'URxvt*borderLess:true' to false in .Xdefaults smile

Thanks for updating the wiki Stan big_smile

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#16 2011-09-21 07:24:58

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Thanks for the explanation Will! It was so much easier when we could use "larch" for making an .iso.


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#17 2011-09-21 07:25:04

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

in 2011.02, the drivers included were

xorg-video-drivers
xf86-video-nouveau
nouveau-dri
nouveau-firmware

but since 2011.09, I've removed the nouveau drivers and only have those included in xorg's group smile

Why not put them back?

And how do you expect us to feed this following to the terminal? Type it over?
Or do you have an easier solution?

pacman -R xf86-video-apm xf86-video-ark xf86-video-ast\
xf86-video-ati xf86-video-chips xf86-video-cirrus\
xf86-video-dummy xf86-video-fbdev xf86-video-glint\
xf86-video-i128 xf86-video-i740 xf86-video-intel\
xf86-video-mach64 xf86-video-mga xf86-video-neomagic\
xf86-video-nv xf86-video-r128 xf86-video-rendition\
xf86-video-s3 xf86-video-s3virge xf86-video-savage\
xf86-video-siliconmotion xf86-video-sis xf86-video-sisusb\
xf86-video-tdfx xf86-video-trident xf86-video-tseng\
xf86-video-v4l xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-vmware\
xf86-video-voodoo xf86-video-xgi xf86-video-xgixp\
ati-dri intel-dri mach64-dri mga-dri r128-dri\
savage-dri sis-dri tdfx-dri xf86-video-geode

I expect AB to be user-friendly at the first meeting; this isn't.

This is easier if you use nvidia, but also not easy enough and I don't know if it is enough with the new release:
pacman -Rd libgl


Further remove all *-dri packages with
sudo pacman -Rd ati-dri intel-dri mach64-dri mga-dri r128-dri savage-dri sis-dri tdfx-dri

Then sudo pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils
Then sudo nvidia-xconfig


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#18 2011-09-21 08:28:28

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Noted smile
-A simple script will do for removing the drivers but copy-pasting from the DOC works too (that's what I do when I install AB on another machine)
-As for including nouveau drivers, I'm still not convinced. Why?
Because among all Nvidia users, some have no issues with it and some do have issues (we can confirm that through older posts)
And most of the times, those with recent Nvidia cards that have no issues w/ nouveau will ditch it for the proprietary nvidia driver.
I'll gladly include nouveau drivers if even failsafe mode doesn't work but I doubt it smile
(I personally wish vesa was invincible but learned from my mistakes in Reloaded last year lol)
-As for copytoram, I'll just remove it

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#19 2011-09-21 09:41:31

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Will is right you are not going to please everyone, do you make Archbang into a user designer live iso or let them install... make it how they want?

Archbang to me is a means to an end run it live or in ram, install it and do what you want

Do not see any bugs in Archbang it works, with so many different systems setups laptops old and new you are never going to cover all bases

Arch is about keeping it simple exactly what Archbang is.....


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#20 2011-09-21 13:30:07

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

willxtreme wrote:

Noted smile
-A simple script will do for removing the drivers but copy-pasting from the DOC works too (that's what I do when I install AB on another machine)

Ya, I noticed the updated ~/DOC, cutnpaste extra commands, and done as done. nice job.
(I admit it, I'm a lazy typist)

thanks 'gain.

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#21 2011-09-21 13:45:15

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

I'm just listing this as "feedback" which ok, move it over.
Ok, so personally, I really miss the look and feel of good 'ole "ArchBang 2011.02"
to me, you hit the nail right in the ___-in head with that release. wink
Older but usefull tools, doesn't mean they aren't still usefull tools.  hehe.
But hey, it's all good, and, I will adjust, no sweat, it's just my humble "praise" to a great all-in-one Arch(Bang) install,...

cheers.

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#22 2011-09-21 13:58:50

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Noted smile
..but copy-pasting from the DOC works too (that's what I do when I install AB on another machine)

Never thought of that; that doc always seems to escape my attention, my fault.

I would propose to include the nvidia drivers; just too make as much people as possible being happy and having no problems when trying the livecd.
Maybe we should do a vote among nvidia card owners.


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#23 2011-09-21 14:10:12

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

pablokal wrote:

Noted smile
..but copy-pasting from the DOC works too (that's what I do when I install AB on another machine)

Never thought of that; that doc always seems to escape my attention, my fault.

I would propose to include the nvidia drivers; just too make as much people as possible being happy and having no problems when trying the livecd.
Maybe we should do a vote among nvidia card owners.

Count my vote for mostly Nvidia, 
but I love amd/ati's great GPU-hardware too.

I use 'em both (but unfortunately, in imho,  I mostly use, and much prefer Nvidia, 'cause their drivers are STILL of a much higher quality than AMD/ATI) <- regarding Linux/Unix/...
I just wish amd/ati would provide equally well Linux/unix/... software/drivers for their excellent hardware too.
-but don't we all.  Lol.

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#24 2011-09-21 14:28:28

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

I can already tell you I won't include Nvidia proprietary drivers

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#25 2011-09-21 17:59:14

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

thanks orschiro smile

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#26 2011-09-22 00:12:30

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

What is the deal with Conky switching sides of the screen? How about Shift + Super + 'x' have them both onscreen at the same time....

The options are endless

Could something like Expose be added? Tried Skippy but I could not get it working

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#27 2011-09-22 00:23:00

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Some notes from my recent install of AB 2011.10.

1. In order to get x to display I had to start the Live CD in failsafe mode to get a res of 1024x768.

2. Install completed with no issues - followed by rankmirrors script.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mi … t_by_speed

3. Chromium does not work well with xcompmgr effects - window breaks up -  (installed firefox-nightly)

4. 'Nvidia dance' of driver removal (described above) in order to get nvidia driver installed for my GT240 GPU.

5. RAM usage seems a little high for Archbang - between 200 and 300MB at idle. Might try removing WICD and using networkmanager.

6. No radiotray included sad

7. Would have been nice to have xfce4-power-manager installed.

8. Installed htop - how do I get this to start with urxvt? From the dynamic applications menu it is expecting to use xterm.
How do I change this to urxvt?

9. I personally like the urxvt window control - it reminds me of DWM - another of my favourites.
I will have to adjust some setting in .Xdefaults for example, number of lines stored and the addition of a scrollbar - minor tweaking.

10. Keep up the great work cool

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#28 2011-09-22 06:45:52

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

-I'm hapy failsafe mode worked smile
-Don't forget that there's a tweak in the DOC for chromium
-I get 167MB of ram used @ Boot on x86_64 here and once I launch a ton of applications & close them all around 180-195MB
-Yeah radiotray error. Did you manage to install it in 2011.10 RC?
-xfc4-power-manager used to be installed but I'll keep on shipping a simple battery mon and let the user do whatever after

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#29 2011-09-22 10:30:35

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Radiotray installed and working.
Thanks for the Chromium reminder-fixed!

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#30 2011-09-22 10:32:57

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

ancleessen4 wrote:

Radiotray installed and working.

nice smile I'll check that out later when I'm home

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#31 2011-09-23 07:51:14

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

Always the same error for radiotray even on a clean AB generated this morning
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#32 2011-09-23 08:24:09

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

ancleessen4 wrote:

Might try removing WICD and using networkmanager.

This will make many happy lol but yes. WICD will be ditched!

I also experienced weird situations (not @ home but @ school + its true that the memory footprint of nm is smaller)
->went from 135MB to 118MB at initial boot in Vbox for x86_64 & 167 to 155MB on my real laptop. I love your suggestion big_smile

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#33 2011-09-23 10:00:21

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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

willxtreme wrote:

This will make many happy lol but yes. WICD will be ditched!

+ infinity  big_smile

You've made me incredibly happy with that news about network manager!!! That was my only real gripe about ArchBang. NM is larger in size than wicd but so much more versatile. I won't have to keep deleting wicd and installing network manager on every AB install I do.(Just did one this afternoon for a colleague). Thanks Will!!


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#34 2011-09-23 10:09:11

scjet
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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

willxtreme wrote:

I can already tell you I won't include Nvidia proprietary drivers

I understand, that would be like including ATI's proprietary Catalyst driver yikes  -haha.
I just meant that, aesthetically speaking, some ppl prefer nvidia (linux drivers) over amd/ati's imho, right now, and I could care less about nouveau. I have my own script anyway, that detects the vid hardware and installs the appropriate drivers after.
However, depending on the average user, -they may not bother to even try "Failsafe" -if they freak out.? -as mentioned previously by "pablokal" .

Optionally, maybe the new updated "~/DOC" should just pop-up on the screen somewhere (during some post-installation phase) as well.
That way, if the user doesn't want to read it, then atleast they have been forewarned...?

Last edited by scjet (2011-09-23 10:19:10)

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#35 2011-09-23 10:23:35

ancleessen4
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From: luxembourg
Registered: 2010-10-08
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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

@willextreme

┌─[root]──[archbang]:/home/neil$
└──>>pacman -Rd radiotray
checking dependencies...

Remove (1): radiotray-0.6.4-2 [1.22 MB]

Total Removed Size:   1.22 MB

Do you want to remove these packages? [Y/n] y
(1/1) removing radiotray                           [----------------------] 100%
┌─[root]──[archbang]:/home/neil$
└──>>pacman -S radiotray
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (1): radiotray-0.6.4-2 [0.10 MB]

Total Download Size:    0.00 MB
Total Installed Size:   1.22 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
(1/1) checking package integrity                   [----------------------] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                  [----------------------] 100%
(1/1) installing radiotray                         [----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for radiotray
    gstreamer0.10-bad
    gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins
┌─[root]──[archbang]:/home/neil$

Well...I removed and re-installed-seems OK here(???)

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#36 2011-09-23 12:38:41

willxtreme
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Registered: 2010-10-06
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Re: AB 2011.10 - feedback part 2

That's the issue it works when removed & re-installed but when you want to include radiotray in the list of packages as it generates the iso, it doesn't work OOB

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