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#1 2011-07-26 02:45:12

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No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

Archbangers,

Just did a fresh install of ArchBang on a laptop. To avoid the upgrade problems I followed the steps posted by oliver, pablokal and puttepw on previous posts.

I rebooted after the install and did a forced update/upgrade after finding my fastest mirrors.

I entered the command:
   

 $ sudo pacman -Syuf

This forces the upgrade which takes care of the wicd problem.

Next, after all the packages were upgraded (385 packages and about 293 MB total) I removed the aufs2 package
   

 $ sudo pacman -R aufs2 aufs2-util 

which takes care of aufs2 no longer being in the newer kernels.

Next, I reinstalled xorg-xkbcomp to stop the respawning issue
   

 $ pacman -S xorg-xkbcomp

and then finally,  I rebooted. ArchBang fired up without any problems. I rebooted several times just to make sure and there were no problems. Please try this method for first installs. If you are still experiencing problems then look at:

http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=160
http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?pid=791#p791
http://stillstup.blogspot.com/search?q=startx
http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=810
http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3663#p3663

Last edited by ArchVortex (2011-09-09 10:05:34)


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#2 2011-07-26 05:22:05

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

thank-you for this archvortex, should definitely be a sticky


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#3 2011-07-26 08:55:54

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

I just did it again with a student of mine's netbook so it was no fluke the first time. Glad it can be a sticky! smile


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#4 2011-07-26 09:49:12

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

nice to see this is linked from the wiki too!

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#5 2011-07-26 10:50:55

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

oliver,

Now that Will and Dan have given me Admin privileges for the Wiki I can start moving info from forum posts into the Wiki. I figured something like this needed a prominent spot on the Wiki until Will releases the 2011.09(?) ArchBang.


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#6 2011-07-28 10:22:00

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

ya Hey, thanks.

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#7 2011-07-28 14:33:07

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

Thanks a bundle for that seamingly easy fix. How did you figure that would bypass those wicd issues. Is it advisable to use the pacman -Suf option for regular updates? I am almost guessing no.

I would use this for my future new installs.

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#8 2011-07-28 16:39:14

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

During the build of the new wicd package, .pyo files were generated that weren't in the last package. A forced upgrade was needed to write the new files into the package during the upgrade in your system and allow pacman to continue to update it correctly in the future.

Updating by using -f with Syu is not required unless there is a problem upgrading the package. Using -Syu or -Syyu is all that is needed.

The new release in September by WillXtreme will not require these installation changes. I will try and build a new updated  AB .iso this weekend while I'm in Singapore but I'm not sure I'll be successful with the new scripts for archiso. Waiting for my flight now.


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#9 2011-07-28 17:34:43

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

kazuya wrote:

Is it advisable to use the pacman -Suf option for regular updates? I am almost guessing no.

I think you're right and you shouldn't be doing it.  IMO you want to know when this happens and adding the 'f' flag will leave you blind to it.

Does anyone have a good reason why 'f' *should* be used by default?

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#10 2011-07-28 19:50:32

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

Oliver is right and kazuya is right.  In general, you don't want to blindly force upgrades all the time because you won't know which packages were causing problems and needed to be forced. In the case of my installation instructions, we already had documented posts with problems caused and solved during installation. I knew from the posts, my own installation experience and instructions from the package builder/maintainer to force an upgrade on wicd and it would be the only package out of almost 400 that would need forcing.  I tried to keep the number of steps in the installation to a minimum to keep it simple to follow and execute, so in this case it was a bit dirty but okay at the moment. 

Installation instructions may change as krb5 has changed a lot in the last build and a patch from Fedora was required because it started pulling in a lot of dependencies that weren't in the last build and this had to be stopped.  Ah, the fun of using a bleeding edge distro.


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#11 2011-08-11 02:56:20

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

Hi all.. My first post here..
I'm new to arch/archbang.. After updating, had some issues with reboot/shutdown. I'm unable to reboot or shutdown my pc, either through right-click -> exit or using terminal -> shutdown -r now or any other commands.

Have reinstall several times, googling around try to find the answer but to no avail.

my machine are dell optiplex 330, archbang installed to usb-hdd samsung 500gb.

I also installing arch just to see if the issues just in archbang but the same problem also in arch (am using netinstall, gnome de)

i install chakra and not expecting any much different, at first attempt, the update does give me the same problem. i reinstall, then updating again, the second time, to my surprise, the problem disappeared.

Am currently are extremely tired to continue my hunt on the net, reinstall/reupdate.Somemore, my internet connection are not that very speedy.  So, any help is more than appreciated and many thanks in advance.

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#12 2011-08-11 06:19:52

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

if you try and shutdown from the command line (with shutdown or poweroff) what is displayed on the screen?

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#13 2011-08-11 07:28:45

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)


GUI's?? We don't need no stinkin' GUI's!!!
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#14 2011-08-11 14:50:28

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

This thread worked for me, except I decided to change the FS type to XFS from Ext4 and I did a reinstall.  When I ran through these steps again I ran into the problem described here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=124289 (solution inside)


ISSUE:
pacman: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/lib/libalpm.so.6)


FIX:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=124289

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#15 2011-08-11 18:31:15

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Re: No installation problems with this method (2011.02 Release)

Awesome!  localredhead, thanks for adding for that! Yay, another forced package upgrade. :-(

Addendum: Just found this in my inbox from Dave Reisner (falconindy) about pacman 3.5.4-3:

"final" is really biting me...

Yet another rebuild to address an issue we're having on the 2010.05
media with the first pacman -Syu hosing the system because of a broken
dep on glibc 2.14. The -3 rebuild addresses this by adding an explicit
versioned dep on glibc>=2.14 so that glibc is pulled into the SyncFirst
transactions with pacman.

NB: We've already solved this problem for pacman4 with the, as SyncFirst
targets will implicitly get --needed and --recursive flags added to the
transaction and deps needing updates will automatically pulled in.

Yay!!

Please sign off, both arches.

BTW, Pacman 4.0.0RC1 is in testing now

Last edited by ArchVortex (2011-08-11 18:53:45)


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