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#1 2015-12-29 06:22:14

eric
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Arch philosophy

this is a perfect example about archlinux fork and archlinux.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mesa-nosystemd/

Moderators forum doesn't accept any posts about forks but accept without any problem keeping a unchanged works and push it on AUR. AUR is a part of arch or not? So it's a little unfair i find. i think it's time to me to separate arch and obarun smile......

edit : updated link

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#2 2015-12-29 09:24:10

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Re: Arch philosophy

link doesn't work


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#3 2015-12-29 09:48:03

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So the link and me have a trouble on your site haaaaa lol


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#4 2015-12-29 11:18:07

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#5 2015-12-29 12:07:39

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Re: Arch philosophy

Nothing wrong with that, just be a little careful on arch fourms they are not so tolerant wink


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#6 2015-12-29 22:30:56

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Re: Arch philosophy

@ i don't care lol, i say what i have to say, they either agree or not, it was my last post on their forum, people will make their own opinion. Say " AUR is arch but package in AUR is not the responsability of arch" is completely contradictory but it describe the arch philosophy clearly lol.


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#7 2015-12-30 08:35:22

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Re: Arch philosophy

eric wrote:

@ i don't care lol, i say what i have to say, they either agree or not, it was my last post on their forum, people will make their own opinion. Say " AUR is arch but package in AUR is not the responsability of arch" is completely contradictory but it describe the arch philosophy clearly lol.

It is a bit of a contradiction but I see the gains in doing it that way.  They have the analytical advantage of seeing what non-repo apps are being used and promote them to real repos (via download stats or votes)

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#8 2015-12-30 09:24:38

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Not seen any non-systemd aur packages hit main repos wink despite my votes....


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#9 2015-12-30 09:37:56

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:-)  And I think yaourt is the most popular app in there and it will *never* get promoted.

Let me change that to "they have a framework to see what the most popular apps are"

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#10 2015-12-30 09:55:34

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Just stuck my vote in.....

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yaourt/


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#11 2015-12-30 22:41:34

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Re: Arch philosophy

if i don't make a mistake systemd was on aur3 before passing on official repo
take a look here
https://github.com/aur-archive/systemd

futhermore actualy systemd-kbus is not on official repo but in AUR here : https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=5 … temd&PP=50
we will see.... but i don't doubt that this package will pass to official repo.

well, xxx-nosystemd don't have risk to pass on official repo big_smile. but i need to place protection for other package like relative package for runit and service. i'm preparing for the war..... smile.

first i will go to make pgp key for my pkg (better for security) and rename (not sure) all my packages on xxx-obarun with license for pkgbuild. if they will want to use it the address of my site will be in
i have trouble for make pgp key but i'm not doubt to accomplish this

if ARCH don't want to talk about the origin of my work, I do not want to work for them. i'm kind but not stupid

note: Official WIki have a ton of link for AUR package, not contradictory truly not lol

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#12 2015-12-31 00:43:42

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@eric why not see if parabola is more friendly towards your packages. Did notice there nosystemd packages are orphaned....


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#13 2015-12-31 01:52:56

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Re: Arch philosophy

Mr Green wrote:

@eric why not see if parabola is more friendly towards your packages. Did notice there nosystemd packages are orphaned....

saw it, same idea here, but i will take my time to see who are they and what they do.


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#14 2015-12-31 02:20:49

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Converted a VM with archbang too parabola at the moment. Would love to rehost archlinux packages but it would turn my work into a full time job.

Another port of call is http://systemd-free.org/.....


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