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#1 2014-08-13 16:10:46

Pietia
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Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

So what are your opinion about that ? I think it could really has the potential to be number 1 distro in time.
http://kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0/index.php
just look at kde5 how beautfiul it is along with arch linux package's it will simply own ubuntu and other distros simply because it will use less resources currently ubuntu cant work good even on 2Gb ram .
It was realesed 1 month ago as stable release so I think it's worth to try it could be an alternative to openbox .
I would like to add that no distro has kde 5 in main repos so archbang will be first !!
I would love to create a pool but Im not sure if it's possible on this forum so just post under this !.

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#2 2014-08-14 04:49:35

scjet
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

... "no distro has kde 5" yet,
but remeber that there's the Bluestar, Chakra, and Manjaro distro's, all of which support an "Official" KDE spin. I'm sure as soon as KDE5 (kf5/plasma5-desktop,...) are stable enough then they'll be coming out of the oven too.
Actually, of all of them, "Bluestar Linux" follows arch-upstream similar to archbang, so they'll likely have kde5 out first?

Archbang, and now "^!" have always been biult around the very light WM's/DE's, ...,  and so as it should be, imho.

However,
I've been playing with the new kf5/Plasma5-desktop, and although it's quicker to load, it still uses just over 500 Megs of ram -which isn't bad, but still everything is in testing right now.
I am very impressed with potential kde5, that is, of what I can see of it right now -it's got a very comfortable softer/warmer feel to it, than previous kde4, in other words "less is more", glad that kde devs are seeing the light.

But you're right, it's definitely worth a mention, in fact, I'm gonna post a quick HOWTO, over in the FAQ's section here.
big_smile

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#3 2014-08-14 06:38:00

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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

If you move away from openbox - where's the bang in the name then?  Bang = openbox
Crunchbang, manjarobang (early days) and archbang they all have openbox. If you should change this to KDE the name would be arch smile but I think that's taken.

I never been a huge fan of K myself but I have to admit they are moving in the right direction. Ram consumption is on an acceptable level and it's quite responsive.
In a few years - maybe - it can be the dominant DE for Linux but not today

If A! ever would change the enviroment it would feel more naturally to move to lxqt - a light desk. But openbox still rules in my home at least smile


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#4 2014-08-14 08:37:31

Pietia
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

I thought that arch bang was created not for the openbox but for easy implementation of arch linux which is quite hard for a normal user of computer.
From what I see bluestar linux still uses 4.x kde

Last edited by Pietia (2014-08-14 08:40:24)

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#5 2014-08-14 09:35:40

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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

Once you install ArchBang then you have a working base from which to install whatever you want. For KDE then Arch wiki is your best friend.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE

Lxqt is an option but at this time I do not feel it stable enough, for now ArchBang will be Openbox .... learn to use use learn to love it....


Comments, suggestions please feel free to contact me mrgreen(at)archbang(dot)org

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#6 2014-08-14 11:22:54

scjet
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

Pietia wrote:

I thought that arch bang was created not for the openbox but for easy implementation of arch linux which is quite hard for a normal user of computer.
From what I see bluestar linux still uses 4.x kde

DE's, or WM's, ...,  be it KDE*, or Gnome*, ..., do not determine "easy implementation of arch linux",
rather, the respective "Installer' recipe's/script's, are the ones that do those tricks. wink

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#7 2014-08-15 08:38:17

kaqqao
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

You can only pry Openbox from my cold dead hands. It took me *years* to discover it. *Never* letting it go.

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#8 2014-08-15 09:55:15

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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

Used Openbox for many years then tried i3 and really love it


Comments, suggestions please feel free to contact me mrgreen(at)archbang(dot)org

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#9 2014-08-15 13:20:23

oliver
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

I went from Gnome2 --> XFCE4 --> fluxbox --> openbox --> i3

It's inevitable :-)

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#10 2014-08-16 13:24:05

scjet
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

CDE(Solaris) -> (Gnome 1 ?)Redhat 7.2 -> kde -> gnome 2  -> kde3 -> kde4 (wtf is this shite?) -> (back to) gnome2 ->  (Zzzz),-> Openbox(Crunchbang) -> Openbox -> kde4 -> Openbox -> JWM -> Openbox(AB) -> Openbox -> LXDE -> Openbox -> xfce? -> Mate -> (Zzzz) -> Openbox -> i3 (well this is nice for "coders"?) -> Gnome3/Unity (but only for an hour-and never again) -> e17 -> Openbox -> PekWM -> Openbox -> LXDE -> Openbox -> SpectrWM (this is also nice for coding) -> Pantheon -> e18 -> xfce4 ->  Openbox -> kde4(ok that's better now) -> LXQt -> Openbox -> kde4 -> Openbox -> JWM -> (Zzzzz) -> Openbox

It's always back to this dam Openbox !!!
wink
If I stick with a "light" (Stacking)WM, it's going to be Openbox and/or JWM !

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#11 2014-08-16 18:48:53

oliver
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

scjet wrote:

CDE(Solaris)

I loved CDE for a while... was it 2.6 when it became standard?  Seemed like a revolution when I first saw it

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#12 2014-08-17 06:05:10

scjet
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

Yes, I think you're right, Solaris 2.5.1, or 2.6, in 1996, is when "Motif" was used to give CDE that final CDE/Motif  look.
Yep, 1996, long before Gnome. but ya, at that time, Sun's CDE/Motif  did seem like a "revolution".
It looked like something out of the future -lol.

Interesting "Early Development" stats from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
CDE was ported over to Redhat and Redhat offered it until Gnome was released, years later.

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#13 2014-08-17 06:37:55

scjet
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

oliver wrote:

I loved CDE for a while... was it 2.6 when it became standard?  Seemed like a revolution when I first saw it

Holy crap! CDE is still active, CDE 2.2.2 :
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/files/src/

Let's compile it in Archbang, and then we will be the ONLY Distro, in the world,  to offer Openbox, and CDE 2.2.2
big_smile

[Update]: sry, nevermind, it's also in AUR, as cdesktopenv2.2.1, but sadly, with lots of compiler errors, ...  sad

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#14 2014-08-17 12:12:57

throdon
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

I don't know how current it is, but the Kmart I work at uses CDE on the cash registers. The RNU that we use on the floor to check prices and inventory, uses SCO/Unixwear when it boots up.

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#15 2014-08-18 00:43:01

pjhalsli
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Re: Arch Bang based on arch linux but with KDE 5 plasma .

scjet wrote:

CDE(Solaris) -> (Gnome 1 ?)Redhat 7.2 -> kde -> gnome 2  -> kde3 -> kde4 (wtf is this shite?) -> (back to) gnome2 ->  (Zzzz),-> Openbox(Crunchbang) -> Openbox -> kde4 -> Openbox -> JWM -> Openbox(AB) -> Openbox -> LXDE -> Openbox -> xfce? -> Mate -> (Zzzz) -> Openbox -> i3 (well this is nice for "coders"?) -> Gnome3/Unity (but only for an hour-and never again) -> e17 -> Openbox -> PekWM -> Openbox -> LXDE -> Openbox -> SpectrWM (this is also nice for coding) -> Pantheon -> e18 -> xfce4 ->  Openbox -> kde4(ok that's better now) -> LXQt -> Openbox -> kde4 -> Openbox -> JWM -> (Zzzzz) -> Openbox

It's always back to this dam Openbox !!!
wink
If I stick with a "light" (Stacking)WM, it's going to be Openbox and/or JWM !


Never used fluxbox?
After I got addicted to ob I've tried flux and pek (still love both) but always come crawling back to ob tongue
I love tabbing in flux and pek and wish we had it in ob also, but other than that I think ob is the best enviroment to work in.
After using Gnome3 for some weeks I actually came to like that also, even though I was a real "hater". Think I had used it around 3 weeks when I got an a-ha experience. When I got in to the Gnome way of doing things it was quite good.
But nothing beats ob so here I am big_smile


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