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#1 2014-07-20 00:36:02

Mr Green
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Release confusion

To reduce confusion over releases I have removed qt and openrc version (no longer maintained).

Am going to carry on working on light version towards a release in September, we are planing a few changes namely installer and addition of more applications.

Do need to get more documentation out on light version, some users miss the candy of system tray icons and volume control. Once you have installed ArchBang you are of course free to add whatever you like to install.

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#2 2014-07-21 11:40:10

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Re: Release confusion

Please give us feedback about  what you like or miss in the lightweight  iso.


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#3 2014-07-21 13:03:23

pjhalsli
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Re: Release confusion

I think it's good as it is, but of course a volume control would make it easier ootb. But then again this is a light version right? Something to build from. Personally I added just a file manger (mc) music player (moc)  and newsbeuter. Now I have the perfect system for my needs. I have another comp with a full DE and "everything" installed but that one get used less and less.


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#4 2014-07-21 13:08:02

Mr Green
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Re: Release confusion

Would volume controls suffice? ie keyboard ones...?


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#5 2014-07-22 02:54:21

pjhalsli
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Re: Release confusion

I don't understand why people would need a volume control. You can always adjust the volume in the program you are using -there's no need for a volume control. If you're not using a program you don't have sound anyway.  I think  that it would be better for a noob to see the volume control ootb but I don't think noobs are downloading ^! light.  Just my 2 cents smile

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#6 2014-07-22 07:43:54

Mr Green
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Re: Release confusion

What about some keybinds, menu option and possible launcher to open alsamixer? Need to get some input on a minimal file manager.


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#7 2014-07-22 09:28:28

justanotherguy
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Re: Release confusion

The following is an non-exaustive list of FM's (official repo's only) along with their respective 'total installed size' on a fresh archbang-light.
Note : For automounting of USB storage udisks2 or similar has to be installed.

vifm - 0.75 MiB
emelfm2 - 2.14 MiB
rox - 3.78 MiB
Midnight Commander - 6.41 MiB
pcmanfm - 6.53 MiB
Thunar - 12.64 MiB
xfe - 15.39 MiB

* Ranger requires python therefore the total installed size will be around 88 MiB (python - 86 MiB)

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#8 2014-07-22 09:30:14

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Re: Release confusion

As for minimal FM, I would go for mc
As we're offering a lightweight AB, I think users could easily manage to install whatever they want.


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#9 2014-07-22 10:15:20

Mr Green
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Re: Release confusion

Mc then maybe vifm. It was the fact that we are banking on a user having a working network connection. Of course if you have then you can install any one you so desire.

@justanotherguy what does mc weigh in at?


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#10 2014-07-22 11:01:32

justanotherguy
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Re: Release confusion

Mr.Green   'mc' Midnight Commander - 6.41 MiB wink

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#11 2014-07-22 11:29:29

Mr Green
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Re: Release confusion

As much as that maybe vifm then? Not sure how user friendly it is.....


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#12 2014-07-22 13:05:07

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Re: Release confusion

vifm FTW! It's been a long time since i first installed and configured this FM, the only thing that caused me a small trouble was changing/setting the default apps for some file types.
Other than that it's realy awesome!
Here's a nice tutorial.

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#13 2014-07-22 13:12:07

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Re: Release confusion

My only concern is if it is too difficult for new linux users. Might be an idea for me to include something in guide regarding install of a lets easier fm.


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#14 2014-07-22 13:17:48

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Re: Release confusion

In this case you should probably think of a more traditional-gui FM instead of  a command line one.
Pcmanfm is a nice FM and it's almost the same size as mc wink
Edit: It realy amazes me how powerfull vifm is, although it's so light!

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#15 2014-07-22 13:31:48

Mr Green
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Re: Release confusion

Pcmanfm would mean I need icons and volume management possibly more. Unless it runs text mode...


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#16 2014-07-22 13:43:27

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Re: Release confusion

vifm might put off newbies,emelfm2 should be fine.

Maybe you can call for a vote after you narrow down the list?.

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#17 2014-07-22 13:54:41

Mr Green
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Re: Release confusion

You might be right, emelfm2 might be a good trade off. Never know I might have room for both ;-)


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#18 2014-07-27 03:03:00

basecase
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Re: Release confusion

But which one would get the keybind? emelfm2 or mc? they are the same style of fm. I would say emelfm2 for the people that want dual tab file management and pcmanfm for the casual use. Thus the keybind. For the people that want the lightweight experience could more easily remove pcmanfm than the grandma who gets an AB install from her son.

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