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#1 2012-09-15 14:03:33

dragonauta
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xcompmgr vs compton

Hi all
Anyone else is having troubles with xcompmgr for eye candy?

When I drag something my screen blinks and "puff", no more effects.

Some weeks ago I switched to compton-git. No complaints.


I would like to propose a switch from xcompmgr to compton-git for official eye candy


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#2 2012-12-22 18:41:13

ncmprhnsbl
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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

i've noticed this too. even went as far as making a keybind to turn it back on, for when it crashed tongue..
compton-git,  on the other hand, doesn't crash and has more features, including transparency.
i'm guessing most archbang/openbox users care not for candy....

My suggestion:   drop xcompmgr, and add a section to the DOC outlining the alternatives..

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#3 2012-12-22 19:23:15

scjet
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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

Ya, xcompmgr has always been the cheap-man's compiz, for Openbox.

but, thats odd, i just tried a:

packer -S compton-git
...
 GitHub is offline for maintenance. See http://status.github.com for more info.
==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
    Aborting...
The build failed.

Then, a

packer -S compton
...
zip: stdin: not in gzip format
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
No PKGBUILD found in directory.

-checked to make sure xcompmgr... was removed, just in case, but still same errors, I'm using latest Arch(bang) updates, and ATI-Catalyst, so maybe ?, but that shouldn't 'cause any issues, since everything else seems to work fine.
But of course, a "#packer -S xcompmgr_tint2-git",  works great, from (xcompmgr_tint2-git-20121222-1).
-go figure ?

Edit: but thanks for the tip, I'll keep my eye on "compton" in the future.

Last edited by scjet (2012-12-22 19:39:37)


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#4 2012-12-23 00:04:51

Mr Green
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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

I switched back to using xcompmgr-dana recently in ArchBang, but personally I do not use it. You soon get bored of fading windows and menus...

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#5 2012-12-23 00:35:15

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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

I have always use cairo-composite manager (cairo-compmgr) and is wonderful!!!

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#6 2012-12-23 05:04:20

scjet
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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

well a "#packer -S cairo-compmgr-git" installs ok,
so, it appears that "compton-git" in AUR has some bugs right now, that the maintainer is trying to fix ?. I posted a quick bug-report in aur.

I don't normally bother with eye-candy too much, but since my new lappy has an HD7670m, I might as well use it.  smile

"xcompmgr, or xcompmgr_tint2-git" requires very little dependencies, and it works well, but "cairo-compmgr-git" does provide some nice, rich features, at the expense of some extra dependencies, gtk2/3, vala, ...

Thanks, @Irca, for the cairo-compmgr tip.

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#7 2012-12-23 10:58:47

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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

scjet wrote:

Ya, xcompmgr has always been the cheap-man's compiz, for Openbox.

but, thats odd, i just tried a:

packer -S compton-git
...
 GitHub is offline for maintenance. See http://status.github.com for more info.
==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
    Aborting...
The build failed.

Then, a

packer -S compton
...
zip: stdin: not in gzip format
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
No PKGBUILD found in directory.

-checked to make sure xcompmgr... was removed, just in case, but still same errors, I'm using latest Arch(bang) updates, and ATI-Catalyst, so maybe ?, but that shouldn't 'cause any issues, since everything else seems to work fine.
But of course, a "#packer -S xcompmgr_tint2-git",  works great, from (xcompmgr_tint2-git-20121222-1).
-go figure ?

Edit: but thanks for the tip, I'll keep my eye on "compton" in the future.

compton-git requires access to GitHub.com which cervices are currently offline for maintaince, that' why you get:

GitHub is offline for maintenance. See http://status.github.com for more info.
==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().

compton on the other side is a non-existing, and since packer has a bug you get some message that tell you nothing. It has been reported (https://github.com/keenerd/packer/issues/83) but from what I know the maintainer of packer is no longer interested in maintaining it. You can use:

packer -Ss <package>

in the meantime to search for results first and see what's available, or:

packer <package>

and chooce a number matching the package you want.


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#8 2012-12-23 17:15:43

ncmprhnsbl
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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

Mr Green wrote:

I switched back to using xcompmgr-dana recently in ArchBang,

this would explain why pacman -R couldn't find it.. XP  ...was no conflict anyways.
but yes, xcompmgr-dana does also crash upon dragndrop.....
looks like i timed it well, getting in before git went offline for maintainence.  smile
As far as compositing goes, the 'candy' side of it isn't too important to me, even though i've shadows, fading etc enabled, it's mainly 2 things:

semi-transparent windows on demand through keybinds( i draw, handy for reference checking)
semi-transparent titlebar so i can see a minimal conky through it, with a maximised window.

what i specificly don't like is, semi-transparent unfocused windows...easy enough to configre out.

early on, i installed e17 to check out where it was at(and partly to see how difficult it was to do)  ....craa..azy... oO

but hey each to their own..     this is the arch way.
one last thing.. smile  ..using openbox/archbang has taught me to configure kde4(not arch) into something  a little more sane..

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#9 2012-12-23 17:38:55

scjet
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Re: xcompmgr vs compton

@smil3y  (with the backwards "E")  wink

"...compton-git requires access to GitHub.com which cervices are currently offline for maintaince,..."

Hey thanks for the explanations,  I do appreciate that.

Last edited by scjet (2012-12-23 17:41:41)


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