again - nvidia, X respawning too fast

mauvebic · 2012-05-22 05:51:31

Im sick of reinstalling arch over and over so perhaps someone can tell me why the latest round of updates breaks X? nvidia here. I used to have an old ATI card but i was told it was "old". Now it looks like linux cant handle new cards *any* better.

the last round of updates asked me to remove libgl, conflicting with nvidia. after that nothing works.

Pardon my mood, im just bloody fed-up with never being able to get any actual work done. Seem to spend more time under the hood than in the drivers' seat. whats a good, light debian dist that would coexist nicely?

Mr Green · 2012-05-22 06:24:56

Ubuntu?

oliver · 2012-05-22 07:40:56

mauvebic wrote:

Seem to spend more time under the hood than in the drivers' seat. whats a good, light debian dist that would coexist nicely?

It does sound like you'd be better off with a release-based distro rather than a rolling one like Arch or ArchBang. Any reason why you want it to be debian based?

mauvebic · 2012-05-22 07:45:26

something between the two. ubuntu assumes im stupid, arch assumes i have too much time on my hands.

but mainly the problem im having with arch right now is that everytime i got a dozen updates it either breaks X or wifi every time. Ive reinstalled 4x from image which means even more updates. Now i got it working by letting pacman sort itself out (ianno, upgrading and exchanging/removing packages AND trying to sort out the dependencies all at the same time o_O)

So after all the updates i knew X would break (and i installed wicd off the bat because network manager doesnt work for me on the latest kernel), i reinstalled xorg, nvidia, nvidia-utils, made sure /etc/mkinitcpio.conf listed nvidia for display, ran

sudo /sbin/mkinitcpio -p linux

and now everything seems fine for now. Though im not taking any chances im adding LMDE to my system. i doubt two systems would break at the same time.

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Mr Green · 2012-05-22 09:11:26

Really if Arch breaks for you that often you are doing something wrong.

You always have fallback if system will not boot

Or you could just install lts kernel for a bit more stability

Arch has not failed on for at least a couple days

pablokal · 2012-05-22 12:45:55

You even could not update Arch for some time.
There is no law that forces you to do it.
On an old family pc I didn't update AB for a year and all that time it functioned flawlessly, fast and responsive.

mike4ca · 2012-05-22 20:33:37

mauvebic wrote:

whats a good, light debian dist that would coexist nicely?

IMO crunchbang. I have the stable version installed another partition and a separate data partition (not home, I don't want to mix config files). This allows me to get at my documents, etc. in case somethings goes wrong with an Archbang update.

mauvebic · 2012-05-23 15:32:13

I already tend to not update my system, except when the current setup has performance issues (in my case, VLC). Some updates will improve performance, but then my CPU fan will be running nonstop, other updates give the CPU a break but then shit freezes/looks distorted.

Sorry for my earlier mood but sometimes im just fed up with linux in general. Its not arch specifically. Somethings' happenned to the quality of OSS in the last 2 years that i dont like.

Last edited by mauvebic (2012-05-23 15:38:15)

scjet · 2012-05-26 18:56:24

"...X? nvidia here ?...?
I've been complaing about nvidia NOT opening up their drivers to Linux/Unix for years', along with the rest of the (*ix) planet.
Anyway, yes Win8 is here and Bill wants you. -LoL
WTF could I possibly say here bud?
You me and the flies on the wall, all agree with you. Unfortuantely, You gotta get your hands a little-bit dirty if you want Linux to shine, and even that, will come at some early toil and work.
But don't blame the Distro's, blame the empty space between the steering-wheel and the head-rest, if u know what I mean. -no offence.

Last edited by scjet (2012-05-26 19:00:07)

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