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#1 2012-04-14 04:40:07

Mr Green
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Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

I was wondering if it was possible to have Archbang live iso load virtualbox modules?

Thinking that it would be nice to run fullscreen under virtualbox, my first thought was to include virtualbox-archlinux-additions load modules? Not sure if its possible or would work

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#2 2012-04-14 06:19:37

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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

I really don't know; but I am curious for what kind of scenario you would use this.
Can you explain what you want to do?


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#3 2012-04-14 06:29:51

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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Currently when testing isos under virtualbox Archbang uses vesa, if Archbang could load vboxvideo I would get fullscreen [even seamless].

Better testing environment.

If I install Archbang then of course I can load virtualbox-archlinux-additions and get the benefits [video,folder sharing,network]

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#4 2012-04-14 06:30:15

oliver
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Mr Green wrote:

I was wondering if it was possible to have Archbang live iso load virtualbox modules?

Thinking that it would be nice to run fullscreen under virtualbox, my first thought was to include virtualbox-archlinux-additions load modules? Not sure if its possible or would work

I don't see why not, but it would mean compiling the drivers based on the kernel (i.e. it's not worth pre-compiling since you *might* get a new kernel on the first pacman -Syu)

Probably another script :-)


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#5 2012-04-14 13:53:15

Mr Green
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Am going to try loading virtualbox-archlinux-modules only my first attempt resulted in kernel being updated sad

Adding it to package list may help, so that is my next step.

Recompiling kernel for each release will double my work load smile

Built 3.3.1 iso this morning only to discover its

a) Flagged out of date
b) Breaks ath9k

Aarrrrggggg

Can we not run lts?

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#6 2012-04-14 18:40:08

oliver
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Mr Green wrote:

Can we not run lts?

That is a great point.... what does the stock kernel bring us that lts is lacking?  Some cutting-edge esoteric hardware support?


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#7 2012-04-14 19:13:34

mike4ca
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

+1 to have virtualbox modules loaded.  I also run live cds under virtualbox for testing or just to have an isolated operating system.  It would be nice to have a better screen resolution.


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#8 2012-04-14 23:25:14

Mr Green
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

@mike4ca I have seen it in other live isos, checking Pinguy distro

@Oliver I would switch to lts but my feeling is users want latest and greatest. 3.3.2 has gone into testing so will have to wait to see if it fixes issue


Ok so I added v-a-a to package list then built, I can load vboxvideo module and after killing X and editing 20-gpudriver.conf was able to restart X fullscreen under virtualbox.

Now that is the easy part getting Archbang to do this from boot is the hard part, not even sure how to detect if you are running under virtualbox from live enviroment. Or just simply add an option to restart X with vboxvideo?

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#9 2012-04-15 13:29:18

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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Can we not run lts?

Actually I'm quite in favour of this idea.
We could even build an new distro on that idea: Archstable or something like that: cutting edge but stable and cautious, with all kind of suggestions to keep you Arch install clean and running: http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=2372


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#10 2012-04-15 16:58:00

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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

To keep Arch stable is a great idea, IMO. It would take a bit of work to get a new repo up and running with stable software, but it could be done.

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#11 2012-04-16 00:03:13

Mr Green
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Not sure having an extra repo is a good idea, the work involved with so few of us to maintain it would mean it would be out of date most of the time.

Can only see Arch being more stable from using LTS plus reducing the number of packages from AUR.

After all the user is left to install what ever they need or want regardless of what we do.

A more subjective approach would be a backup system similar to time machine [Mac OS], a way of backing up on a regular basis just in case a package or kernel breaks.

Many of us use Arch simply because its bleeding edge, but moan like hell if it breaks smile

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#12 2012-04-16 13:43:56

pablokal
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

It is all about balance and taking the right precautions.
If you don't do some stupid things and are a bit careful you can avoid a lot of problems.
Aside from the update issues that make Arch a risky business.
I think when I can't log in any more because of an update people have  a right to ask if the devs did a proper job.
Bleeding edge doesn't have to mean  unstable.


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#13 2012-04-17 01:19:43

Mr Green
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Current testing isos include v-a-a, to get fullscreen live simply select xorg autodetect at boot screen

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#14 2012-04-17 04:34:44

oliver
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Mr Green wrote:

Current testing isos include v-a-a, to get fullscreen live simply select xorg autodetect at boot screen

maybe add a new option to GRUB for virtualbox (just point it to the same config)? 

I know for sure I won't remember which one to choose in a couple of days


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#15 2012-04-17 05:54:34

Mr Green
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Hey I do not do feature requests lol.... smile

Once I get a bit more feedback then yes I will add a boot menu item, wondering if boot order is the wrong way round..

Why not have xorg autodetect as default?

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#16 2012-04-18 19:01:45

mike4ca
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From: Iowa, USA
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

I downloaded the 32bit testing iso yesterday and booted it in Virtualbox.  Was able to adjust screen resolution just fine.  Thank you.


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#17 2012-04-18 23:43:52

Mr Green
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Re: Virtualbox modules for Archbang live

Does help when running Archbang under Virtualbox, other modules should be available too. vboxsf for example.

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