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#1 2012-03-17 02:13:42

Mr Green
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Registered: 2010-11-07
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Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

I want to trim out some of the AUR packages that Archbang iso loads

Here is the list:

tintwizard # remove?
gsimplecal # Stays
obkey-git
openbox-menu
dmenu-xft # just dmenu
xcompmgr-dana # just xcompmgr
fbxkb
lxinput
slimlock
gnome-carbonate-icon-theme

But anything else be dropped?

Will edit list as I make changes

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#2 2012-03-17 07:10:55

oliver
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

with pacman4, is paccheck needed anymore?

what does xcmpmgr-dana bring that xcmpmgr lacks?

vcp is the visual copy?  Nice, but non-essential unless you use it as part of your scripts


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#3 2012-03-17 08:30:05

Mr Green
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Well that is three off the list...

http://igurublog.wordpress.com/download … -paccheck/

vcp is used by abinstall wondering if I can just change it for cp or even rsync?

vcp -Rp $DESTDIR/bypass/ $DESTDIR/

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#4 2012-03-17 21:38:46

Ninja-1
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

vcp could probably be replaced by cp pretty easily.

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#5 2012-03-18 04:05:14

Mr Green
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Tried cp -arp but that failed will keep trying

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#6 2012-03-21 22:50:52

scjet
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From: Windsor, Canada
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Posts: 790

Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Mr Green wrote:

Tried cp -arp but that failed will keep trying

with "cp -a" you don't need the "-rp"


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#7 2012-03-22 00:01:43

Mr Green
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Turned out I only needed -Rp

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#8 2012-03-22 13:46:57

pablokal
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

with pacman4, is paccheck needed anymore?

That depends on how well the devs are providing keys.
I find it difficult to judge if paccheck is  totally irrelevant at the moment, as you think it ought to be.
In the light of this context I would not object to letting paccheck go if there would be a short mention of the not yet totally resolved issue on package signing in the DOC.

On what xcompmgr-dana does see this post of mine: http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?pid=6510#p6510
which brought Will to adding this to the last AB install.
Again mention this as an option in the doc would be a welcome alternative.

Also dmenu-xft comes from a suggestion of mine; it makes it possible to use a much better font in dmenu.
I will always install that as I use dmenu every moment but again the DOC....

But [see deep heels in the sand....]
I'm morbidly against dropping packer. I find it one of the most essential tools of AB.
Pacman is what makes Arch Arch and packer is what makes  a safe and easy use of the AUR possible.
Packer is the most stable AUR tool around and indispensable for the new Arch user.
Big mistake, no very big mistake in my view to drop this.
This will lead to a lot questions in the forums I don't feel like answering any more.


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#9 2012-03-22 15:16:11

Mr Green
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

dmenu-xft is part of latest releases...

Packer stays! post install it would cause problems for new users plus it is a very handy tool should user need to load a package not in main repos

Paccheck was removed as it is no longer of any use now pacman 4 has been released

http://igurublog.wordpress.com/download … -paccheck/

Simply wish to reduce aur package list.

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#10 2012-03-23 04:59:44

pablokal
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Fine. Thanks for letting packer stay in the liveCD!!

I have my doubts to which extent package signing is now implemented as long as lots of users put in SigLevel=Never to avoid update problems and not all dev keys seem present. But it is confusing to confront new users with such a complicated and unclear issue, so I fully agree with dropping paccheck.


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#11 2012-03-23 05:52:43

ArchVortex
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From: Jakarta, Indonesia
Registered: 2011-04-01
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Although I makepkg AUR tarballs and don't use packer or yaourt, I agree that packer has to stay so AB users can download and update AUR packages.


GUI's?? We don't need no stinkin' GUI's!!!

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#12 2012-03-23 05:54:07

Mr Green
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

It would be wise for me to edit DOC to reflect changes [including the dreaded packer -Syyuf]

Do wish to remove tintwizard and possibly gsimplecal

There is a way to remove it, simply use a grabbing script to load it.... but I used packer to create my custom repo so it saves so much time.

Packer stays smile

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#13 2012-03-30 13:25:12

scjet
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From: Windsor, Canada
Registered: 2010-12-01
Posts: 790

Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

I think the only way to have NO AUR's, is to simply NOT include any AUR's, upon an initial (Archbang) installation.
Other than "openbox-menu", I don't see any AUR we really need, then again, I'm not so sure myself?
It's too bad, something like openbox-menu is not avaulable in pacman. ?
-but please, don't get me wrong, I'm not against AUR's, in fact, I depend on them for many reasons...
But "installation-wise" is NOT one of them.


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#14 2012-03-31 00:05:57

Mr Green
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

For the time being I am trying to reduce the number of packages from AUR.

Packer is from AUR and is a very handy tool and will stay part of Archbang.

Tintwizard and gsimplecal will be removed for April release.

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#15 2012-03-31 10:20:07

scjet
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From: Windsor, Canada
Registered: 2010-12-01
Posts: 790

Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Mr Green wrote:

For the time being I am trying to reduce the number of packages from AUR.

Packer is from AUR and is a very handy tool and will stay part of Archbang.

Tintwizard and gsimplecal will be removed for April release.

I don't mind removing "tintwizard", 'cause no one really used it, but "gsimplecal" ?. - It is a nice-(feather-light)-toggling-popup Calendar for any Desktop. ???
uhhh ok, whatever. But I'm sad to hear that.

Last edited by scjet (2012-03-31 10:20:30)


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#16 2012-03-31 11:01:42

Mr Green
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Registered: 2010-11-07
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Re: Archbang iso want to reduce AUR packages

Well change of plan gsimplecal stays looked at dates but its massive...

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