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#1 Re: Pacman/Packages » Warning! Binaries move to /usr/bin requiring update intervention » 2013-06-14 12:05:35

I upgraded my ManjaroBang today.  Not hard at all.  They created a work around that allowed a normal pacman update.  See … atesfixes/.  I know this is the Arch warning, but I wanted to let others know how Manjaro handled it.

#2 Re: Arch Discussions » AlphaOs how is it possible? » 2013-05-31 21:24:52

I just tested netsurf on my install.  A lot of pages did not look good at all.  Anyone else having issues with web pages not looking correct?  It could be a setting I have.

#3 Re: Hardware & Multimedia » Network interfaces (wired and w-less) stop to work after a random time » 2013-05-21 07:52:10

That can happen with rolling release like Arch.  If something worked and I did not change it or I am confident that I am following the instructions correctly, I will just keep trying after different updates and see if it gets fixed.

You can mark a topic as solved by going to your original post and selecting "edit".  Then edit the title to add [solved] or similar.

#4 Re: FAQs, Tips & Tutorials » Arch switches to netctl (issues?) » 2013-05-17 20:29:21

Archbang uses networkmanager.  The netctl package is part of the base system so it should be there, but Archbang won't need it.  If you need help with a specific problem with netctl, start a separate topic and hopefully someone will be able to help you.

#6 Offtopic » Faster Stable Updates for Manjaro? Good or Bad? » 2013-05-02 20:57:10

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I saw this on the Manjaro blog: [News] Faster Stable Updates.  I am not sure if I like this.  I had been happy with the occasional and well defined updates.  I haven't had any problems.  On my ArchBang install, the last time I updated I had a broken Xorg, so I rebooted back into ManjaroBang.  IMO one of the best parts of the previous delay was being able to go to the Arch forum and look for posts on things that were broke.  Now if there is only a few hours difference between Arch and Manjaro, I may lose that "benefit".  Since I don't use any of the GUI tools, there may not be an advantage to using Manjaro as my base.  If any of you have more inside info, let me know if I am interpreting this announcement incorrectly.

#7 Re: Hardware & Multimedia » dbus messages (solved) » 2013-04-30 20:03:06

Don't forget to mark it solved if you found the solution!

#8 Re: Openbox » [Solved] - OBmenu Icons stuck in AwOken » 2013-04-24 21:06:23

I think that Mr Green had already made the switch to obmenu-generator for the pipe menu used for Applications.  If so, you may need to set the icon set for the applications in the ~/.config/obmenu-generator/ file.

#9 Re: Introductions » ArchBang - Awesome without the 6 hours of tweaking. » 2013-04-24 20:55:01

It is nice to have another Archer try out and like the install.  Many of us have installed both.  The AB install is definitely a time saver, assuming you like most of the default software and configs.  Welcome to ArchBang.

#10 Re: Openbox » GTK3 Menus. » 2013-04-23 21:43:08

Not everyone is able to help and some of the best help is spread out over the world.  So sometimes you need to wait a day.  What GTK3 them are you using?  There are issues with a lot of GTK3 themes and the latest GTK 3.8.

#12 Re: ArchBang Installer/.iso Project » Summer release » 2013-04-23 21:35:46

No problem with spacefm-gtk2 version for me.  Probably because that is what I am using!!!  GTK/GNOME is certainly not playing nice with the rest of the world these days.  But they have their priorities and like most projects, limited help.  I have confidence that the theme developers will keep updating.  I would expect some of the themes to be fixed by summer.

#13 Re: FAQs, Tips & Tutorials » A Beginner's Guide to Installing on a RAID » 2013-04-21 20:03:15

oliver wrote:

nice guide... hope you don't mind, but I wifi-fied it at … _on_a_RAID

Did you link this wiki to another article or add it to the TOC?  If not, I can take care of that.  Also, Stan had a long standing tradition of putting a link at the bottom of each article to get back to the TOC.  You can copy from another article or I can get it taken care of.

#14 Re: Offtopic » Finally, "RUSH" gets into Rock Hall Of Fame » 2013-04-19 18:52:04

Finally!  I have been a huge fan for decades.  2112 is one of my favorites.  I always loved how much depth their music had for just 3 people.  Watching Neal in concert is a trip.

#15 Re: Arch Discussions » Archbang vs Manjaro/Openbox, lets compare choices and experiences » 2013-03-21 20:04:08

Even though packages are held back a little and tested more, I still had a bad upgrade on my ManjaroBang!  Fortunately I had two kernels installed and listed on me GRUB(legacy) bootloader.  The other kernel is still ok.  I will have to see if I can recover.

#16 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Getting Archbang style menu in Manjaro » 2013-03-13 20:14:49

This AB wiki: … ng_Configs gives instructions for mounting an AB iso and getting the latest configs (I still need to update the linked configs to the latest).  You should be able to copy the menu.xml.  Going to AB iso would also get you the pipe menus that are used.

#17 Re: Arch Discussions » Archbang vs Manjaro/Openbox, lets compare choices and experiences » 2013-03-13 20:06:31

pablokal wrote:

I'm curious what kind of choices you want; what defines Manjaro for you? Pamac or the multiple kernels or solely the  repo's ?
Do you want to replicate the AB set up on based on the Manjaro repo's? And then which AB setup?
The one of September is already quite different from that of March.
Do you want to use Manjaro's multiple kernel or the Linux-lts kernel or the latest Arch stable?
Do you want the AB look or the Manjaro one? Etcetera.
Or do you want to provide all the options? Or just more choices on some options?

If I were to build from a netinstall based on the Manjaro repo's I would keep Manjaro's looks.
But the choice of applications would be quite different.
Firefox instead of midori; dmenu and htop; I would forget about quite a lot that Manjaro has build into it. I like the very basic choice of AB atm.
I would leave out pamac.
I wonder if what Carl is trying with the openbox lite edition wouldn't come near to what you or I are looking for: … 1#msg21501

My install will differ from the standard AB because of some of my software choices.  But I was planning on having the how to replicate the program selection and configuration of AB.  I would reference the AB wiki as much as possible (assuming I keep that up to date).  But what I was looking for mostly was the stability of Manjaro's repos (hoping they will be more stable).

#18 Re: Arch Discussions » Archbang vs Manjaro/Openbox, lets compare choices and experiences » 2013-03-12 11:21:03

pablokal wrote:

First impression manjaro openbox edition is that it is a very difficult OB edition for an ABer like me; sorry, was hoping to be able to be more positive.

This is why I am trying to get a "how to" for getting something very close to ArchBang using the Manjaro net install.  Just need the time!

#19 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Manjaro + ArchBang wallpaper » 2013-03-12 11:12:22

I had stole my favorite wallpaper from Conker1r and defaced it.  This is what I have had until I could create my own or someone created alternative wallpapers: oqWsmzf.png

@Conker1r, let me know if you want me to remove the wallpaper!

#20 Re: Offtopic » Allan MCRAE attacking Manjaroo january 2013 » 2013-03-10 17:24:26

Can't we all just get along?  I support just plugging along helping each other out and ignoring those that don't like us.  I don't think anything good will come out of the negativity.

#21 Re: FAQs, Tips & Tutorials » Call feh in SpaceFM to view images » 2013-03-09 12:17:15

I suppose I should include how to use the new command.  In SpaceFM, highlight the file(s) or folder(s) you want to be in the slideshow or thumbnails, then go to the Tools menu and click on the command you created.

#22 FAQs, Tips & Tutorials » Call feh in SpaceFM to view images » 2013-03-09 09:16:10

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The program feh can be used to view images as a slideshow or clickable thumbnails. I can even be used to set the wallpaper.  See the manual online here for more details.  feh is a command line tool, but SpaceFM can be configured with custom commands to make things easier.  Within SpaceFM click on the Tools menu and right click over the menu that opened and select New.  A box will open asking you to enter a new menu name.  Replace the default New_Command with something useful like Slideshow.  Click OK.  Then the Set Command Line box appears.  Enter in the box feh --scale-down %F and click OK.  Refer to the feh manual for addition options like setting the max screen size or scaling.  The %F option will allow you to pick one or more items within SpaceFM.  You can also select a folder and all images in that folder will be included in the slideshow.  If you have non-image type files or non-supported images in your selection, you may get an error.  To suppress this error, click on the Tools menu, right click on your new Slideshow command, highlight the Command submenu and unselect Popup Output.

Create another custom command to display a screen of clickable thumbnails by repeating the above but this time call the command Thumbnails and enter feh --thumbnails %F.

Be sure to read the manual.  There are a lot of settings you can play with.  There is also a feh in the Arch Linux wiki.

#23 Re: Offtopic » New phone » 2013-03-07 20:40:16

I only have a "dumb" phone for work and my wife has a cheap and "dumb" Tracfone that we bought many years ago.  People are amazed that someone as geeky as me does not have a "smart" phone.  But when they complain about not having enough money (because of monthly fees), not having enough time (because they are constantly playing with their phone), or needing to charge their devices frequently I start to wonder who has the real "smart" phone. smile

I also feel sorry for kids today as I watch most parents play with their phone instead watching their kids (events, parks, dining, etc.).

#24 Re: FAQs, Tips & Tutorials » File manager tips » 2013-03-06 12:20:37

@CarlD, does the .xprofile work for non Window Manager user's like me?  Oddly enough, after I boot and login, I type in startx to get to the desktop.

#25 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Possible new light theme for ArchBang » 2013-03-06 12:14:30

My ArchBang install is using that theme, though I did not install from the AUR (I downloaded from deviantart directly).  I would vote for this theme to be included to make it easier for us "light theme users" to easily change the default dark theme.

#26 Re: Openbox » Changing keybinds » 2013-03-05 07:29:52

At first I had dmenu set to alt-f3 because gmrun was set to alt-f2.  On my newest install I set it to W(super key)-d.  That was before even reading this!  So I would say W-d works for me.

#27 Re: Openbox » Label names for obmenu obkey [Solved] » 2013-03-01 21:28:50

Users new to Openbox may not know what the applications are for.  "Edit Key Bindings" and "Edit Menu" or similar may be more appropriate.  The curious will figure it out either way.

#28 Re: Openbox » Replacing openbox-menu » 2013-02-27 21:31:33

If you want to add a little ArchBang flair to the menu add a separator at the top of the file.

[user@archbang ~]$ our $SCHEMA = [
	{sep => 'ArchBang'},
    #             COMMAND                 LABEL                ICON
    {item => ['spacefm',             'File Manager',      'file-manager']},

Really don't need a separator at the top, but it adds a nice touch to the top of the menu.  If using a static menu it looks like this in the menu.xml

<separator label="ArchBang"/>

#29 Re: Arch Discussions » mesa can you run without it? » 2013-02-27 21:14:08

Oops, looks like I was an update behind.  Before updating

[user@archbang ~]$ pacman -Qi cairo
Name           : cairo
Version        : 1.12.12-1
URL            :
Licenses       : LGPL  MPL
Groups         : None
Provides       : cairo-xcb
Depends On     : libpng  libxrender  libxext  fontconfig  pixman>=0.28.0  glib2 sh

No mesa required.  Then I updated and saw these messages:

:: Replace khrplatform-devel with extra/mesa? [Y/n] 
:: Replace libegl with extra/mesa? [Y/n]
:: Replace libgbm with extra/mesa? [Y/n]
:: Replace libgl with extra/mesa-libgl? [Y/n]
:: Replace libglapi with extra/mesa? [Y/n]

Now cairo requires mesa.  And mesa requires wayland?  When I saw wayland be installed I could not believe it.  Why?

[user@archbang ~]$ pacman -Qi mesa
Name           : mesa
Version        : 9.1-2
URL            :
Licenses       : custom
Groups         : None
Provides       : libglapi  osmesa  libgbm  libgles  libegl
Depends On     : libdrm  libvdpau  wayland  libxxf86vm  libxdamage  systemd

The Arch mailing list has a thread about cleaning up the mesa packages and dependencies.  Though I don't think I agree.  A gtk2 program should not need everything down to wayland.  I can see mesa needed it you want advanced graphics, but not for a stripped down install like mine.  Maybe I am missing something.

#30 Re: Arch Discussions » mesa can you run without it? » 2013-02-26 21:07:15

I would check your "required by" again for mesa.  Mine currently states it is not required by anything.  Mesa is for 3-D graphics libraries.  I don't think it is needed except for fancy desktops (clutter) or OpenGL apps (games, etc.).  I don't think it would be a problem to remove.

#31 Re: Openbox » Replacing openbox-menu » 2013-02-24 12:37:16

I played with obmenu-generator some more.  To move the application categories to an Applications menu from the root menu change the file like:

original file (only part is shown):
    {sep => 'Applications'},

    #          NAME            LABEL                ICON
    {cat => ['utility',     'Accessories', 'applications-utilities']},
    {cat => ['development', 'Development', 'applications-development']},
    {cat => ['education',   'Education',   'applications-science']},
    {cat => ['game',        'Games',       'applications-games']},
    {cat => ['graphics',    'Graphics',    'applications-graphics']},
    {cat => ['audiovideo',  'Multimedia',  'applications-multimedia']},
    {cat => ['network',     'Network',     'applications-internet']},
    {cat => ['office',      'Office',      'applications-office']},
    {cat => ['settings',    'Settings',    'applications-accessories']},
    {cat => ['system',      'System',      'applications-system']},
Changed portion of file:
    {sep => undef},
    {raw => q(<menu id="Applications" label="Applications">)},
    #          NAME            LABEL                ICON
    {cat => ['utility',     'Accessories', 'applications-utilities']},
    {cat => ['development', 'Development', 'applications-development']},
    {cat => ['education',   'Education',   'applications-science']},
    {cat => ['game',        'Games',       'applications-games']},
    {cat => ['graphics',    'Graphics',    'applications-graphics']},
    {cat => ['audiovideo',  'Multimedia',  'applications-multimedia']},
    {cat => ['network',     'Network',     'applications-internet']},
    {cat => ['office',      'Office',      'applications-office']},
    {cat => ['settings',    'Settings',    'applications-accessories']},
    {cat => ['system',      'System',      'applications-system']},
    {raw => q(</menu>)},

Move the separators around or delete per your taste.  After changing the file, regenerate the static menu and reconfigure Openbox to take the new static menu.

To use only as a pipemenu within your static menu, add this line to your menu.xml:

<menu execute="/usr/bin/obmenu-generator -i" id="desktop-app-menu" label="Applications"/>

Don't include the -p as I think that option is used to change your menu.xml to have the one line that makes the whole menu a pipemenu. You would want to change the file to only have the category lines (comment out the other lines with #).  The -i flag is optional for icons.  More help is available on the command line

obmenu-generator -h

#32 Re: Openbox » Replacing openbox-menu » 2013-02-23 21:52:21

I found obmenu-generator in the AUR here:  It uses perl, the author of the app is the AUR package maintainer (also maintains another AUR dependency), can be run with or without icons, can specify the icon set (did not play with myself), you can specify the editor and terminal, has well documented config file, can be run as a static menu or pipe, etc.

It completely takes over your menu.xml (at least in my short trial tonight).  There is a schema file for adjusting what you want and where, so there is no reason for obmenu package anymore.

I was generally a pipe-menu fan as I did not like having to add an item after installing a new package, but the menu has an item for regenerating the static menu that is quick and easy.

I haven't figured out how to add a Places or Recent Files pipemenu (yet), but I don't use those a lot.Upon closer reading of the schema file's help, you can enter any valid Openbox xml string (i.e., pipemenu).  For example, the file would have a line like

{raw => q(<menu execute="~/.config/openbox/pipemenus/obpipemenu-places ~/" id="places" label="Places"/>)},

for the places pipemenu.

#33 Re: Openbox » Replacing openbox-menu » 2013-02-22 23:45:57

This xterm thing is really starting to irritate me.  I like the archlinux-xdg-menu pipe-menu option but can not get rid of xterm.  When I boot to the command line and check for TERM, I get:

set | grep TERM

but after startx I get TERM=xterm.  So something in starting X or Openbox is setting this.  I looked around and could not find it.  I thought I would try to set it to another terminal.  Openbox has a ~/.config/openbox/environment file.  I tried adding TERM= to that file, no change.  I tried changing in in autostart, no change.  I even added a line in .xinitrc, still no change.  Finally I found where the cache for xdg_menu was (~/.xdg_menu_cache).  Deleted that directory.  Exported TERM= and then let it rebuild the pipe-menu.  It was still requiring xterm for a program like HTOP.  I then tried creating an alias called xterm that was really my terminal of choice, but that only worked within a terminal (I need to learn more about bash).

So in the end I uninstalled xterm (not required by anything) and ran:

sudo ln -s /usr/bin/terminator /usr/bin/xterm

Now everything that wants to run in xterm goes to terminator.

I also was playing with the icons.  I commented out my <showIcons>yes</showIcons> line in rc.xml.  Even after deleting the cache folder and rebooting, it was still putting in icons.  But I am ok with the icons, so I am going to live with it.  At least I am away from AUR packages and gnome-menus.

#34 Re: Openbox » Replacing openbox-menu » 2013-02-21 22:36:01

I was playing with uxdgmenu-git in the AUR tonight.  It looked promising as there is a config file that you can set the filemanger, terminal, icon set, icon size, etc.  The PKGBUILD requires pyxdg package, which I can't find.  I did find a python-xdg package, so I downloaded the PKGBUILD and modified it.  But still got an error when I ran the program.  It wanted a python module that could not be found.  I did not look into it anymore (been up to late too many nights in a row).

#35 Re: Openbox » Replacing openbox-menu » 2013-02-20 22:44:38

I got no where with the dmenu-launch.

For the archlinux-xdg-menus I found there is a pipe menu option.  I updated my menu.xml with the following line:

<menu execute="xdg_menu --format openbox3-pipe --root-menu /etc/xdg/menus/" id="xdg-menu" label="Applications"/>

It is a true pipe menu.  It will regenerate each time you pass over it.  So no manually updating the menu or adding a line to the autostart.  Oddly, the icons were better than the version created with update-menus.

I did see how it wanted to make you use xterm.  A poor man's fix would be to ln -s xterm to the terminal of choice.  Then you would need to put xterm in the Ignore group in pacman (otherwise the link will get removed each time xterm is updated).

I noticed even more options in the AUR.  I will check them out as I get time.

#36 Re: Arch Discussions » Is ArchBang a remix of Arch? » 2013-02-20 21:22:42

rfk1ll wrote:

To that end- Would Arch/Openbox users be welcome here?

Should be fine.  Many of us have experience with both systems.  And the info would be useful for those that are customizing their AB installs.

#37 Re: Openbox » Replacing openbox-menu » 2013-02-19 22:36:21

I was playing with the different menu choices.  archlinux-xdg-menu appeared to work the best, is in the main repos, is small, and does not appear to have much for dependencies (except perl).

In another thread you mentioned replacing gmrun with dmenu.  The Arch wiki has a dmenu page:  At the bottom was a link to the dmenu-launch (AUR) package with a description: A simple Dmenu-based application launcher. Launches binaries and XDG shortcuts.  I wondered if this could be added as the "pipe menu".  I will look into it another day when I get a chance.

#38 Re: Offtopic » Latest firefox... » 2013-02-19 20:54:42

Actually, I would use it.  Frequently I come across web pages that are pdfs.  Have to save and then open.  Don't care for it and then just delete the file.  It may be just me.  I might not have my default pdf program set up correctly.

#39 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Share your ArchBang Desktop Thread! » 2013-02-08 22:35:17

@dragonauta, I could see that conky being used a "dashboard" of a car or plane and the wallpaper set to look like you are looking out of a windshield.

#40 Re: Arch Discussions » Is ArchBang a remix of Arch? » 2013-02-08 22:31:31

scjet wrote:

Although, I guess there is also another alternative that we could add, and it's been discussed here before, but couldn't we also make an "archbang" package, in AUR, that simply, once an "Arch" default installation is done, they can run per-say: "packer -S openbox-archbang" ?, which basically mimics, and is in the same spirit, as our Archbang here. ?

If I recall correctly, Mr. Green is a good example of someone who saw a need and had an interest so he stepped in and started working on the iso.  You had initiative before with the net-install.  Do you want to take the initiative on the AUR package?  You could try to set up the PKGBUILD and if it works then you could share.

I don't know how much work it would be to maintain.  I have no experience in AUR package building but I imagine it would be a list of openbox related dependencies, some default configs, and some nice wallpapers?

#41 Re: Pacman/Packages » google music manager help.. SOLVED » 2013-01-31 20:21:29

First, I apologize for my response last night.  I saw the first make and didn't notice you found the the makepkg error and had posted the output.  I did not have to change the md5sum and everything worked fine.

sudo makepkg -s --asroot
==> Making package: google-musicmanager (Thu Jan 31 20:06:45 CST 2013)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> Retrieving Sources...
  -> Downloading google-musicmanager-beta-i386-
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100 3296k  100 3296k    0     0  1338k      0  0:00:02  0:00:02 --:--:-- 1355k
==> Validating source files with md5sums...
    google-musicmanager-beta-i386- ... Passed
==> Extracting Sources...
  -> Extracting google-musicmanager-beta-i386- with bsdtar
==> Starting build()...
x - debian-binary
x - control.tar.gz
x - data.tar.lzma
==> Starting package()...
==> Tidying install...
  -> Purging unwanted files...
  -> Compressing man and info pages...
==> Creating package...
  -> Generating .PKGINFO file...
  -> Adding install file...
  -> Compressing package...
==> Finished making: google-musicmanager (Thu Jan 31 20:07:06 CST 2013)

After building I noticed I now had a file google-musicmanager-beta-i386- which was downloaded by the during the package build.  I did a md5sum and got e60b0e132ad61acf88321caa08a1441d which matches what is in PKGBUILD.

You may want to try again in a new folder.  That way it downloads everything fesh.

#42 Re: Pacman/Packages » google music manager help.. SOLVED » 2013-01-30 22:03:13

Install wget with pacman if you want to download by the command line.

It didn't work because you did not follow the instructions.  Read the AUR guidelines and my instructions.  You have a command wrong.

#43 Re: Pacman/Packages » google music manager help.. SOLVED » 2013-01-30 21:59:23

I have a request.  If it works, please mark the thread solved by editing the title from your initial post.  While you are at it, please change the title to something more descriptive (i.e., need help installing google-musicmanager from AUR) so it can be searched easier by others.  Thank you.

#44 Re: Pacman/Packages » google music manager help.. SOLVED » 2013-01-30 21:30:18

If you don't want to get thrown in to vi when the advanced editor is called then look at the Arch Wiki on some ideas on how to force nano.   What I did was add the following line to my /etc/profile.

export VISUAL=/usr/bin/nano

I rebooted to take effect.

If you read the AUR user guidelines it recommends to download, edit manually, build and install.  For example:

$ mkdir ~/temp
$ cd ~/temp
$ wget
$ tar zxf google-musicmanager.tar.gz
$ cd google-musicmanager
$ sudo makepkg -s --asroot
$ ls		#to see name of new package
$ sudo pacman -U google-musicmanager.______.pkg.tar.xz	 #update package name as appropriate

#45 Re: Arch Discussions » Arch BSD: Arch Linux Atop The FreeBSD Kernel » 2013-01-23 21:11:25

The red is striking!  This will be an interesting effort.  Lots of packages will need to be compiled for BSD.  I noticed Openbox, SLIM and other ArchBang typical packages are already there.  The would need to be a lot of work on the wiki.  Right now the installation instructions take you to the Arch Linux wiki, but I think there will be some significant differences in how the ArchBSD will work.  oliver pointed out the most obvious, no systemd.

#46 Re: Offtopic » Secure Boot vs Restricted Boot » 2013-01-03 21:52:37

My solution (as a US citizen)? Buy from System76 or Zareason.

#47 Re: Feedback » rolling release ezine link doesn't link to rolling release anymore. » 2012-12-31 09:38:13

This is on the front page under the community links on the right.  I did not click on it myself.

#48 Re: Hardware & Multimedia » Route Arch host traffic through VirtualBox guest » 2012-12-29 21:07:12

What I tried today (without success) was setting up the pdSense guest with Adapter 1 as a bridged connection to the wlan0 (I am currently connected to my network over my wifi) and Adapter 2 as Host-only Adapter.  VirtualBox has the Host-only as vboxnet0.  When starting pfSense, I set the WAN to Adapter 1 (was listed as em0) and the LAN to Adapter 2 (em1).  pfSense got an appropriate and unique IP address for on my home network for the WAN connection and assigned to the LAN connection.  I can ping from pfSense.

I wanted to have my host connect to the Host-only.  I ran

list: ip addr | sed '/^[0-9]/!d;s/: <.*$//'
1: lo
2: eth0
3: wlan0
4: vboxnet0
sudo ip link set vboxnet0 up
ip addr show dev vboxnet0
4: vboxnet0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000

just gives the unkown state for vboxnet0 and I can't ping the address. If I set wlan0 to down, I lose the pfSense WAN connection.

I tried changing the Adapter 2 to Bridged Adapter as well.  I can't get the host to connect to the guest with through eth0 either.  In this case the eth0 state stays at down.

Any ideas?

#49 Re: Hardware & Multimedia » Route Arch host traffic through VirtualBox guest » 2012-12-28 23:20:20

OK, I started reading through the VirtualBox manual and now remember more clearly where I got confused.  It was with the different types of networking.  There are:

  1. NAT(clearly not what I want).

  2. Bridged networking.

  3. Internal networking.

  4. Host-only networking.

I am not sure which I need to use or if it is a combination.  I need pfsense to use one network interface to talk with the wireless card directly.  I think this is Bridged networking.  And then route to another network interface that my host talks to.  This sounds like Host-only networking.  Is this what you are trying?

#50 Re: Hardware & Multimedia » Route Arch host traffic through VirtualBox guest » 2012-12-28 22:31:08

I once read an article in BSD Magazine about what you are attempting.  The article talked about using a laptop on a public access point (i.e., hotel, coffee shop, etc).  Their example ran OpenBSD in a VMware appliance on a Windows host.  They had it setup so the OpenBSD VM used the wireless card to pick up the wifi and then apply the firewall and NAT to a fictitious(?) network connection that the Windows host would connect to.  This essentially put a firewall between the Windows computer and the wifi.

I attempted to replicate myself once before, but did not have any luck.  But I blame that mostly on lack of knowledge on my part.  I got stuck at the same place I think you did.  I will download pfsense and work on it again.  Maybe we can work together.  Or as people read our posts the will see where we are going wrong.

For those that are reading.  Where I think we really need help is with VirtualBox networking.  If you are experienced in more advanced VB network configuration.  Please let me know.

#51 Re: Introductions » Noob Linux User first choice ArchBang » 2012-11-30 20:54:09

Have you checked out the Steam beta from the AUR yet?  See:  I was going to wait until it was officially released.  Hopefully you are also aware that puts together bundles of games that are cross platform.  Though sometimes the Linux "version" is not very native.  I have enjoyed many of the games I did purchase.

#52 Re: Offtopic » Moving on to another distro? Tell me why and where » 2012-11-30 20:42:53

I have been running Bodhi Linux for a while.  I wanted to try out Enlightenment.  I like Enlightenment, though it makes me wonder what is going on when they take a decade to develop it and then have new alpha releases every other day.  Being Ubuntu based has it benefits from when it comes to installing things like games from Humble Bundle (almost always you can get a .deb file).  I also installed the Ubuntu software manager with the thought of using to buy stuff (paid software, magazines, etc).  Plus with Steam coming Ubuntu's way first it seemed worth while.

I discovered the package bloat appears to be excessive on the Ubuntu side.  I can't believe some of the dependencies I have seen get pulled in.  I also feel a little lost on the system.

I find myself frequently going back to the Arch website for getting information.  I don't have a problem with Systemd and love the control (or at least knowledge) of my install I have.  I did an "Arch" install on a small home server and did not have a problem.  I plan on installing Arch on a HTPC I ordered.  I haven't decided if I will use Enlightenment or stick with Openbox.

#53 Re: Offtopic » A slice of Raspberry Pi » 2012-11-17 20:24:24

My PI is in retirement for now.  It was working great as a little home server but then I had a file system error on my root partition.  I then got rid of my ArchLinuxArm install and put on the Bodhi version (E17 on top of Raspbian).  I ran into a file system error again.  I am guessing it is my SD card.  But I don't really have the time to mess with it these days so I dug out an old laptop with a busted screen.  I am running it headless.  Not as energy efficient as the PI, but it has a built in UPS!

#54 Re: Offtopic » What other Linux OS are you running or distro hopping with besides AB? » 2012-10-19 21:29:54

I have been running Bodhi Linux lately.  I know it's based on Ubuntu, but besides that it has been working very well.  I wanted to try Enlightenment.  I like it when a distro picks one desktop and sticks with it making sure it is the best experience possible.  I was able to match most of the key bindings and mouse bindings to my AB install.  By default, the menu was a left click on the desktop.  This frustrated me a little as I was used to right clicking.  But right clicking gives you a favorites menu.  I have quickly adapted to clicking right for favorites and left for the rest.  Of course my real favorites are key bindings.

The eye candy stuff appears to be integrated well and there are many options.  Sleep and resume are very quick and flawless so far.  My NetworkManager actually connects to my network every time, quickly, and flawlessly (something that had not happened with most distros).

#55 Re: Offtopic » A slice of Raspberry Pi » 2012-10-12 16:35:51

I had a very specific goal for mine.  I wanted a small server.  I am running Arch Linux for Arm headless.  I have castget pulling in podcasts and torrents for video casts.  rtorrent handing the torrent stuff including seeding a few other projects that I like supporting (lightening up their server load).  And mini-dlna so I can watch and listen to what I have on my TV or any computer with VLC.

Next I want to add an external hard drive to store my movies and music so I can watch/listen to them through the mini-dlna (again on my TV or VLC).

I could have done this with an old desktop or laptop, but for the price having a low powered, silent, and small PI was just the thing.

I am getting an extra microSD card with a SD card "converter".  I might try the Bodhi (enlightment) version of Raspbian on that.  If I like it, I might get an extra to have as a "media center" for my TV.

#56 Re: Offtopic » A slice of Raspberry Pi » 2012-10-06 18:49:16

That is so weird that it is taking so long to get.  I ordered mine in July and got it within a few weeks.  I ordered from Newark. 

I did noticed a few comments out there about glibc failures when updating.  ArchArm was a little behind, but the update that took down half of our x86 based installs finally hit the PI.  There is a newer image out there that has hard float built in for better performance.  They went full systemd with that image.

#57 Re: Arch Discussions » Mounting a partition as data storage into /home » 2012-09-26 21:17:34

Sorry about not getting back to you sooner.  I was testing things out and was running into issues.  I learned more.  Here is what I did.  After formatting /dev/sda2 to ext4, I ran the following in the terminal.

$ sudo lxterminal 
# mkdir /files
# echo "/dev/sda2 /files ext4 rw,auto,users,exec 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
# mount -a
# chmod 777 /files
# exit
$ mkdir /files/Music
$ ln -s /files/Music Music

In the previous attempts, I had the chmod right after creating the /files directory.  But once I mounted the partition then the permissions would revert back to drwxr-xr-x.  Moving the chmod to after the mount keeps the permissions to drwxrwxrwx. 

Then in a CrunchBang install I ran

$ sudo terminator
# mkdir /files
# echo "/dev/sda2 /files ext4 rw,auto,users,exec 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
# mount -a
# exit
$ ln -s /files/Music Music

Notice that I did not have to issue chmod as the mount already assumed the permissions I had previously set.  I have full permission to add and manipulate files in both installs.  I even have different user names for the different installs.

I hope this helps.

#58 Re: Installation » header and build files for vbox » 2012-09-23 20:03:07

It looks like they changed things around for virtualbox.  I see some packages have changed names.  The virtualbox package was just updated today.  I would try "sudo pacman -Syy virtualbox".  The two y's will force the package list to refresh which should resolve the dependency issue.

Note, if you want to install a version from Oracle, then you may need some special packages so you can rebuild the kernel modules.  See the virtualbox wiki from arch ( … tom_kernel).  Here they are talking about if you run a special kernel.  However, I think it would apply to running a special version of virtualbox.  It appears to me the two really need to be built together and I recommend sticking with the Arch package.

Note, read through the rest of the virtualbox wiki, it has a lot useful information that may save you some frustration.

#59 Re: Arch Discussions » Mounting a partition as data storage into /home » 2012-09-23 19:43:13

Mr Green wrote:

@mike4ca hoping to use 20gb root partition for i686 arch install and share my /home partition with it from first drive. Linking sounds like a very good idea, can you give me an example to get me going? Also how have you got /myfiles set up in fstab [to allow user to access it]

I am a little confused.  It sounds like you have an install on sda.  Does it have a separate /home partition?  You want to install a 32 bit Arch(Bang?) on sdb1 and have it reference your home partition on the sda install?  Or do you just want each do you want each install's home directory to have folders that both point to sdb2 partition?  Please list out the partitions and clarify where you want the data. 

Assuming you want to use sdb2 as a shared location for data, what format were you thinking (ext?, ntfs?, other).  I have some ntfs examples back when I thought I wanted Windows to access it as well.  Then later when I had trouble with ownership (ntfs does not seem to care).  It is also useful if you want to talk between BSDs and Linux.  I avoid it now as I try to become patent free (becoming a bit of a software hippy).  I have one install with a NILFS2 shared partition (just playing around).  I can try an extX format if you wish.  Let me know.

#60 Re: Arch Discussions » Mounting a partition as data storage into /home » 2012-09-22 11:58:56

I do that frequently.  It allows me to keep referencing the same data across multiple distros.  I will create a /myfiles directory and add it to fstab.  Within the actual partition I will have folders for Documents, Downloads, Photos, etc.  I create links from my home folder back to /myfiles/Documents, /myfiles/Downloads, etc.  Actually, I have a folder on the partition called links.  In which I keep all of my links and when I install a new distro, I just copy the links over to my home.  Like magic, all of my docs are there.

#61 Re: FAQs, Tips & Tutorials » New malware targets Linux and Mac OS X » 2012-09-04 19:26:22

So others don't need to check the article each time, in addition to blocking the ip address listed in cirrus' post they recommend:

1. Check for the offending file in your home directory: search for and remove any files titled ”WIFIADAPT.”

#62 Re: Introductions » Hello from Minnesota » 2012-09-04 19:20:56

Welcome to ArchBang from a "southern" neighbor.  I grew up in Minnesota and visit often.

#63 Re: Pacman/Packages » Apparmor » 2012-09-01 06:59:10

The Arch wiki has an article:  It looks like a work in progress.  It has recent history so it is being actively worked on (recent as in this year).  The AUR package also has been updated in July and has some notes.

#64 Re: Installation » How to use multiple kernels or install VirtualBox using 3.3.4-1 » 2012-08-31 18:08:12

My virtualbox module was giving me errors for the last week.  Last night I reinstalled both the virtualbox-modules-lts and then linux-lts.  Then rebooted.  Now mine is working again.

#65 Re: Pacman/Packages » New to Archbang plesae help with glibc update? » 2012-08-31 17:38:09

scjet wrote:

=I duuno anymore.

I confident the greater linux community will get through this.  There is a reason the code is open source.  So people can fork it if it does not go the way they really like.  It has happened before, it is currently happening, it will happen again.  Let's try to start having a more positive atmosphere here again.

#66 Re: Feedback » New Archbang Website Design? » 2012-08-31 06:11:04

We should be careful to avoid having website design in our topic description as that may attract spammers.  Note, I deleted the link in the above post.  We should consider changing the title of this thread.

#67 Re: Openbox » How to create desktop files » 2012-08-30 11:32:59

I completely misread the original request.  You were asking about .desktop files in /usr/share/applications correct?  Or maybe you know them as .desktop files and didn't know where to put them.  I am at work (lunch) stuck on my Windows computer, but I recall the files should be placed in /usr/share/applications folder and the pipemenu used for OpenBox will recognize them.  Note, I noticed on my install I have to right click for the menu 2 times before a new application shows up.

To create a new file, just use a text editor or copy/modify another existing file.  I assume you need to be root.

Since I miss understood the question once already, please let me know if this is the help you need(ed).

#68 Re: Openbox » How to create desktop files » 2012-08-28 21:26:00

looked around, but could not find it tonight.  Hopefully someone who has done it before will notice  this topic and speak up.  Otherwise I will keep my eye out for it.  Sometimes it takes a day of two of processing in my head to remember where I saw it.

#69 Re: Openbox » How to create desktop files » 2012-08-28 06:45:30

Did you search the forums for this?  I am sure I have seen this question a few times.  I recall a common response pointed to the OpenBox website.  Please search some more, if you can't find the answer please let us know.

#70 Re: Introductions » Decided to poke around with Archbang. » 2012-08-27 21:29:44

marxav wrote:

On a side note, not that I have been a big wiki contributor historically on Arch or anywhere else, but I found sad that new users creation is disabled.

You can thank spammers for that.  If there is a correction or addition that you would like, just leave it in a post on the forum and we should get it corrected.  If you would like to make a lot of contributions, let us know and an admin can add you to the wiki for contributions.

#71 Re: Installation » How to use multiple kernels or install VirtualBox using 3.3.4-1 » 2012-08-26 21:29:37

Yes, I was a little confused by the "could not satisfy the dependency error" that wanted linux<3.4 and you stating you were running  Sometimes these things work themselves out after a couple days as they continuously update packages.

#72 Re: Installation » How to use multiple kernels or install VirtualBox using 3.3.4-1 » 2012-08-26 20:35:18

It is curious that you can't install virtualbox.  The kernel you list is less than 3.4 (unless you have a typo)!  The Arch wiki has a good article for VB.  Here is what to do to install for custom kernels: … tom_kernel.  There is also the option of installing the long term support (LTS) kernel.  We have a wiki article with some tips: … ort_Kernel.  You can install the LTS kernel and install and use VB with that kernel.

#73 Re: Introductions » VERY IMPRESSIVE..!!! » 2012-08-26 20:25:55

I am guessing you will be fine if you have been using Linux since 2002.  You should be used to reading and trying to figure things out.  I hope you enjoy ArchBang (and other Arch choices out there).

#74 Re: Introductions » Hello, people! » 2012-08-26 20:21:13

Welcome to ArchBang.  I saw you other post on dual booting.  Hopefully you got things loaded and working!

#75 Re: Introductions » Hi » 2012-08-26 20:18:41

I have not tried the Arch install yet.  Is the installation of GRUB(2) automatic or can you exit the standard process before you get that far?  GRUB-legacy is now in the AUR, so you should be able to install it and write it to your partition.  I need to look into this myself as I install my bootloader to the partition as well.

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