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#1 Re: Feedback » archbang-artix-rc-140817 – PCManFM: no trash can – no mount unmount » Today 11:46:29

Would go gtk3 tomorrow only quite a few of the applications we ship with require gtk2!

pacman -Qi gtk2
Name            : gtk2
Version         : 2.24.31-1
---------           
Required By     : epdfview  firefox  gftp  gpick  gtk-engine-murrine  gtkmm  gtksourceview2  libfm-gtk2  libglade  libxfce4ui
                  lxappearance  lxdm  obconf  tint2  vte
------

I know I can get gtk2 out of tint2... gtkmm is a dep of gparted! obconf well no big deal rest I could source a gtk3 alternative...

#2 Re: Feedback » archbang-artix-rc-140817 – no entry for settings in the pipemenu » Today 11:43:26

Dropped archlinux-xdg-menu some time ago (forget why now), installed you are free to grab one of the many menu maker applications.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox#Menus

#3 Re: Feedback » archbang-artix-rc-140817 – PCManFM: no trash can – no mount unmount » Yesterday 23:25:00

Thank you so much I was trying to figure out the issue, now I can fix it..... wink

#4 Re: Feedback » archbang-artix-rc-140817 – PCManFM: no trash can – no mount unmount » Yesterday 11:08:45

Can you try loading systemd-dummy and libsystemd-dummy, sometimes it can help....

#5 Re: Feedback » archbang-artix-rc-140817 – PCManFM: no trash can – no mount unmount » 2017-08-15 12:01:38

Just tested live ISO via USB and it has the same issue, something I will have to look into.

Pcmanfm needs gvfs for trash support... not currently shipped with ArchBang.

Auto mounting is more likely udisks2 again installed not an issue. May add pmount on live ISO.....

#6 Re: Feedback » archbang-artix-rc-140817 – PCManFM: no trash can – no mount unmount » 2017-08-15 11:37:41

Tested and live gparted will not work, did notice conky was missing too. Rebuilt iso with systemd-dummy packages and now conky works.... going to test iso form usb just to make sure its not VirtualBox at fault.

#7 Re: Offtopic » ArchBang changes? » 2017-08-14 10:20:55

Added for next rc release.....

#8 Announcements » Going with Artix repos » 2017-08-14 08:39:34

Mr Green
Replies: 0

ArchBang will now run with Artix repos for OpenRC packages. Current openrc/nosystemd repos will very soon be no longer supported.

Will be working with Artix to provide a mirror and hopefully package support.

Migration is certainly possible (follow link in my signature).. if you are not afraid of using a terminal.

Many users are worried about the use of lts kernel, you can of course still load stock arch 'linux' kernel if you so wish. Simply means you need to do a little more work to get it up and running.

For anyone who wishes to use arch in its pure form (systemd) ArchBang ships with Arch-Install-Scripts...

#9 Re: Announcements » ArchBang is now Artix based... » 2017-08-14 08:33:13

Going 'rc' with this iso.

Midori browser
Mousepad editor

Will add sha sums to first post soon

#10 Re: Offtopic » ArchBang changes? » 2017-08-14 08:17:57

Will add mousepad... for next rc release

#11 Re: Pacman/Packages » systemd and eudev-systemd conflict » 2017-08-14 08:16:53

Not tried yet but if you enable [core] then maybe you can install 'linux' kernel, it might want to install systemd....

#12 Re: Pacman/Packages » systemd and eudev-systemd conflict » 2017-08-13 08:48:16

You will need to reinstall or convert to Artix repos. Currently working towards full conversion to Artix packages.. this will take sometime.

Might be worth reading this how to convert your system https://artix-linux.github.io/migrate/

At some point the repos we used to use will be deleted in favour of Artix, if you are still having problems then please feel free to email me.

#13 Re: Offtopic » ArchBang changes? » 2017-08-13 08:44:48

Spacefm would be my first choice for file manager only it is only in AUR at the moment. Going to try midori to see how large iso will be with it.

#14 Offtopic » ArchBang changes? » 2017-08-09 08:47:21

Mr Green
Replies: 8

I want to put this out to all our users. What would you like to see included in ArchBang? Can I remove some of the applications? Reduce number of toolkits?

We ship with:

Firefox
Lxterminal
L3afpad
Deadbeef
Gparted
Pcmanfm

This brings in gtk2/3 and gtkmm... Thought about removing gtk2 but for reason firefox needs both gtk2 and gtk3.

Did think of going with Netsurf to reduce iso size but some found it a step to far.

#15 Re: Announcements » ArchBang is now Artix based... » 2017-08-09 08:20:11

I have now got installer running, you could try this line 409

Change it look like this (basically add 'lts')

cp /run/archiso/bootmnt/arch/boot/${ARCHI}/vmlinuz ${MNT}/boot/vmlinuz-linux-lts

That should allow mkinitcpio to run without errors.

You will find that you need to edit /etc/conf.d/agetty.tty6 change ablive to <username>

#16 Re: Announcements » ArchBang is now Artix based... » 2017-08-08 10:16:27

Update

New iso, installer is now working.. Firefox is back!

Please note we are now running linux-lts kernel (part of artix repos). Have noticed that I needed to remove vesa driver for Xorg to run under Virtualbox. Not included systemd dummy packages (yet!). You will find that arch [extra] and [community] are missing from pacman.conf (not a big deal to add them back in). Will add them back in via iso in the near future.

#17 Re: Announcements » ArchBang is now Artix based... » 2017-08-08 08:56:00

Maybe look at dummy systemd packages...

world/libsystemd-dummy 233-1
    systemd client libraries without udev; systemd compatibility package
world/polkit 0.113+29+g3272a98-10 [installed]
    PolyciKit with elogind support for non-systemd systems
world/systemd-dummy 233-1
    systemd-sysuser and systemd-tmpfiles binary; systemd compatibility package

See if they help....

Be aware that some Arch based packages are still going to be infected by systemd.

Checked mplayer package does not seem to rely on systemd... you may have some odd package still installed

Yes installer is not working but I am very close to a working version (((still testing)))

#18 Re: Installation » How to install archbang-rc-280617 in VirtualBox » 2017-08-07 13:41:05

As I said Arch wiki is really the place to learn about sudo

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Su … le_entries

## Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command 
# This is for anyone in 'wheel' group password is required
# %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL

## Same thing but you do not need a password, set as default in ArchBang
%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

#19 Re: Installation » How to install archbang-rc-280617 in VirtualBox » 2017-08-07 11:29:08

AB has had sudo rights for user for quite some time, though it is common practice with most distros it maybe a concern for a multiuser system. In that regard I would check arch wiki on sudo and maybe re-enable password for sudo.

#20 Re: Announcements » ArchBang is now Artix based... » 2017-08-07 10:06:40

This might help you and many other users...

..:Artix guide:..

Know that installer will not work at the moment.

For packages add:

[extra]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch

[community]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch

To the end of /etc/pacman.conf and run

pacman -Syu

You should be able to install what you need.

Installer fix .... in abinstall look for mkinitcpio and change it to this:

mkinitcpio - p linux-lts

Should do the trick!

#21 Announcements » ArchBang is now Artix based... » 2017-08-06 10:40:48

Mr Green
Replies: 11

As some you may know the current OpenRC repos that we use will soon be disabled in favour of a new approach.

Pleased to announce ArchBang OpenRC iso based on Artix repos.

87af3f8bce4290d4cc94e6e790a8044241b0d9314a2ed7687b20217c1808edcc  archbang-artix-rc-140817.iso

Thanks to the Artix team for all there hard work and for allowing us to use there repos to keep ArchBang Borg free!!!!!

Mr Green

#22 Re: Offtopic » obarun status » 2017-07-25 04:33:47

[mrgreen@arch ~]$ ping  www.obarun.org 
PING obarun.org (31.22.4.58) 56(84) bytes of data.

Getting nothing....

Will drop Eric an email link him to this post...

EDIT message sent, hopefully he can shed some light on issue

#24 Re: Offtopic » obarun status » 2017-07-24 10:13:26

Seems to be working now....

#25 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-07-22 01:52:39

Openrc is light, fast and easy to use. Issue with virtualbox is more likely intel/vesa driver, had to remove one or other to get it working.

Not sure about /boot problem, normally only test with one partition.

#26 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-07-19 14:21:12

You could simply install ArchBang and convert back to systemd for the full archlinux experience. It is not that difficult to do, provided you are prepared to go into a terminal. There are plenty of full fat systemd arch based isos out there, should you decide otherwise wink

#27 Re: Announcements » Firefox and sound » 2017-07-17 13:46:13

Recently looking at switching to chrome browser, of course you are free to install any browser you wish either live or post install. Rest assured no systemd is at play in ArchBang...

#28 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Share your ArchBang Desktop Thread! » 2017-07-17 12:16:48

Is that part of the normal tint2 package? only recently added launchers...

#29 Re: Introductions » Hi all, just subscribed: no https? » 2017-07-17 12:15:32

Never noticed, can certainly look into it, see what my hosting package allows

Welcome to ArchBang wink

#30 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Share your ArchBang Desktop Thread! » 2017-07-16 09:16:06

Have run with a pipe menu in the past, not sure if it would go down to well with purists

aw systemd

Do like gmrun search options wink

#31 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Share your ArchBang Desktop Thread! » 2017-07-16 03:01:53

Tempted to add gmrun, then remove dmenu... Conky would look much better but I would still need to add keybinds...

#32 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Share your ArchBang Desktop Thread! » 2017-07-15 06:54:40

Are you using dmenu from run program? I like conky a lot, any chance of config

#33 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-07-12 11:04:04

Could be OpenRC, users might be looking for pure Arch. There are a lot of arch based distros now to chose from. ArchBang started many of them off. People have built on the formula and added extra applications and gui this and that. Looked at ArchBox, Arch + openbox ..... 2.6Gigs!!!!

We have lost 32bit version and systemd maybe it is just too far for some.

#35 Re: Introductions » Complete and utter noob » 2017-07-11 12:54:04

Welcome Chris,

Most of what you may need will be on Arch wiki, please remember that ArchBang although based on Archlinux does ship with OpenRC instead of systemd. For a more pure Archlinux experience you may be better off with Manjaro or Antergos or even Archbox.

That said if you have any questions regarding Archlinux then I am sure we may be able to help.

#36 Re: Offtopic » Lightweight Linux distros » 2017-07-10 08:22:48

Looks good, with super massive kernels and thousands of gui toolkits, not to mention huge browsers. I for one know how hard it is to keep things light and simple.

Maybe it's time for something new, light, fast and above all systemd free!

#37 Re: Offtopic » Lightweight Linux distros » 2017-07-09 01:40:24

If I could get rid of a few of the gui toolkits then maybe I could claw back some space for extra apps. For some reason Arch firefox packages requires gtk2 and gtk3! .... Couple that with gparted which needs gtkmm and things start to get messy. I agree a lighter window manager would be the way to go, we try very hard to keep to the AB ideal of Openbox window manager.

[mrgreen@arch ~]$ pacdep jwm
jwm                     307.00 KiB
Exclusive dependencies:      0 B
Shared dependencies:    241.18 MiB
Total dependencies:     241.18 MiB (241.48 MiB)
[mrgreen@arch ~]$ pacdep openbox
openbox                   1.19 MiB
Exclusive dependencies:      0 B
Shared dependencies:    240.77 MiB
Total dependencies:     240.77 MiB (241.95 MiB)
[mrgreen@arch ~]$ 

Ouch!

[mrgreen@arch ~]$ pacdep firefox
firefox                 131.82 MiB (132.68 MiB)
Exclusive dependencies: 883.00 KiB
Shared dependencies:    534.03 MiB
Total dependencies:     534.89 MiB (666.71 MiB)

Shock!

[mrgreen@arch ~]$ pacdep chromium
chromium                202.00 MiB (205.05 MiB)
Exclusive dependencies:   3.04 MiB
Shared dependencies:    406.09 MiB
Total dependencies:     409.14 MiB (611.14 MiB)

Not the worlds best browser by any means, but live....

community/netsurf         4.35 MiB (  7.42 MiB)
Exclusive dependencies:   3.06 MiB
Shared dependencies:    375.13 MiB
Total dependencies:     378.19 MiB (382.55 MiB)

#38 Re: Offtopic » Lightweight Linux distros » 2017-07-08 01:21:47

I use Alpine which is very lightweight and fast.... if you are talking live then Austrumi was always a favourite with me. To get a more lightweight distro have often thought of switching to a small browser but this did not go down to well with our users. When I first started working on ArchBang is was around 400Mb now we are over 600Mb with very little extra content.... Maybe more down to kernel, gparted and firefox...

Anyway welcome to ArchBang and thank you for adding us to your site wink

#39 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-06-29 04:51:34

Hi wink,

Am using my own photos to get around any possible copyright issues.... Most things should work out of the box, but just watch those bigger desktops (that you like!).

Welcome back

#40 Announcements » Firefox and sound » 2017-06-28 09:53:43

Mr Green
Replies: 4

Just thought I would post this issue regarding firefox and sound.  If you have that problem then you might need to load pulseaudio.

arch-nosystemd/libpulse-nosystemd 10.0-1 [installed]
    Client library for PulseAudio

Hope that helps...

#41 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-06-28 08:20:18

Everything up! updated packages, updated iso, updated wallpaper.. wink

#42 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-06-27 05:14:00

It was more to reduce workload and to go systemd free. You can simply load up systemd again if you want a more pure arch experience. I do keep an eye on downloads and they have been quite high recently. In the real world I have less time to work on AB.... will update ISO soon

#43 Re: Announcements » News! » 2017-06-15 05:20:25

Update:

Still testing Alpine Linux, really enjoying a systemd free experience. Am working on a poor mans install (not much progress at the moment). Alpine can be run completely from ram therefore works really really fast. You can at the end of a session save your work/setting/configs/packages using a combination of lbu and a package cache. it is perfect for older hardware that has lower specs....

A AlpBang version? well not any time soon, have less time to work on iso as it is... though you never know wink

#44 Re: Pacman/Packages » Updates » 2017-06-14 06:18:21

I tend to update when I boot up laptop, Arch is all about running the latest and greatest. Would not leave it more than a couple of months ...

#45 Re: Openbox » Login manager » 2017-06-14 06:15:08

ArchBang simply logs in automatically via ~/.bash_profile

# Start x on login
if [[ -z $DISPLAY && ! -e /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 ]]; then
   exec xinit -- /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp vt7
fi

Comment out those lines and then install lxdm... you will then need to edit /etc/conf.d/xdm to

DISPLAYMANAGER="lxdm"

Then start service...

sudo rc-update add xdm

##Note you may need xorg-xdm if not loaded when you install lxdm

#46 Re: Installation » Issue installing ArchBang from Guide [Solved] » 2017-06-06 00:03:27

Still have no idea what the problem is with syslinux or grub install.. would suggest following rabbits advice....

#47 Re: Announcements » News! » 2017-06-03 04:34:22

2017-06-03-113417_1920x1080_scrot.png

Managed to build and install, note I do not use Openbox!!!

#48 Re: Announcements » News! » 2017-06-03 04:04:26

Have heard good things about Voidlinux it has runit init and is based on musl. Maybe they have more package you need. Certainly Archlinux has the package base but I am slowly drifting away from using it. Have Alpine installed on my laptop and am currently testing it. As I use i3 have no need to that many gui apps..... prefer to work in a terminal.

As for an alpine based <foo>bang that is going to be more difficult as you know, less packages available.

It really does not matter that some things do not work, with linux there are many ways to do what you need.

#49 Re: Announcements » News! » 2017-06-01 14:01:00

Only major issue I have is nm-applet, I cannot get it to see local devices. As yet no fix but am working on it....

Are you running edge (and testing) not checked openbox obconf.

Think that for docker,server,nfs Alpine would be fine... desktop applications do seem to be lacking.

Do love using it, Alpine takes up no room is fast, light and best of all systemd.

#50 Re: Announcements » News! » 2017-05-30 13:40:17

2017-05-30-195927_1920x1080_scrot.png

Network manager applet was not working not sure why yet! Went with wpa_supplicant and have a wifi connection.

As you can see I have Firefox

Sorted audio

You do have to add user to groups to allow things to work, namely wheel, audio, video.

Thinking network manager might be a group thing (will search about that)

Next I will add a login manager lxdm....

Also remember to add tmpfs to fstab

#51 Re: Announcements » News! » 2017-05-30 12:02:34

I am very close to a full install of Alpine Linux with all the applications from ArchBang (am running i3 window manager). Alpine does take a little more work to get running than arch, you do need dbus installed and running.

Need to get network manager up and running then I can report back.

#52 Re: Announcements » News! » 2017-05-30 09:22:53

Edit /etc/apk/repositories and uncomment edge urls, comment ones with 3.5... do apk update and apk upgrade then do a search for packages.... apk search

#53 Announcements » News! » 2017-05-28 12:13:28

Mr Green
Replies: 21

I have recently been offered a new job. It will mean that I want to focus on getting settled in before releasing summer iso. However I will update current rc version early next month.

Over the past few months I have had no donations towards hosting and web space which is sad but I understand that Linux should be free as in beer. Any loose change down the sofa would help ?

Looking at Alpine Linux again. A distro that reminds me of early Arch (less systemd). Compact fast easy to install and has a reasonable package database. Did you know it can run pacman package manager?

#54 Re: Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-05-28 12:07:11

I do not have the issue under virtualbox, had no luck with syslinux for no real reason.sure grub can still be installed manually but I guess I need to check script to see if it has an issue.

Thank you for confirming and letting me know

#55 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-05-25 10:03:12

Its a shame because it is so easy to install and once you switch to 'edge' you get a very update system.... not sure what packages you are needing. Certainly something I am really looking at at the moment.

On Virtualbox I have done three installs honing each system as I learn..

#56 Re: Installation » OpenRC and 970 graf card » 2017-05-23 08:25:38

Quite surprised that syslinux works. Grub might have the same issue related to video drivers... know that under virtualbox with grub I could only get X by installing virtualbox modules.


Am interested to know if uefi actually works

#57 Re: Installation » OpenRC and 970 graf card » 2017-05-21 11:21:39

vesa live is ok, but I was looking to get information on a real install. I have my laptop running OpenRC without any issues Boot times are slightly slower than systemd but that could be addressed. The new iso has vesa driver included again. The issue I was having under VirtualBox was post install.... you then have to load virtual modules/drivers to get X to work.

#58 Re: Installation » OpenRC and 970 graf card » 2017-05-21 03:49:59

Are you using nvidia or nouveau driver ?

#59 Re: Installation » OpenRC and 970 graf card » 2017-05-21 01:16:37

Post output of:

lspci -vv | grep VGA

#60 Re: Installation » OpenRC and 970 graf card » 2017-05-20 22:50:22

I know that last iso works live, at least in virtualbox. My issue was with vesa driver on install you get the issue you were having, by removing vesa driver x would start.. still have no idea why....

Normally x drivers are loaded correctly without any real need to create xorg.conf.

Am still wary of making a full release until this is resolved.

#61 Re: Introductions » Former diehard CrunchBang enthusiast giving the Arch world a whirl! » 2017-05-20 01:11:34

@equi its more than likely system is very out of date...

Maybe try

sudo pacman -Syyu

irssi is available, could not find mocp

#62 Re: Installation » Stuck at login » 2017-05-20 01:08:16

Might have found the problem, I removed vesa driver as installs were not running correctly. You will have more luck if you set up mirrors then install the following

sudo pacman -Syyu xf86-video-vesa

Assuming a working network connection system should update then install driver and X will appear.

Will get an updated iso uploaded asap wink

#63 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-05-18 13:26:39

Not a question of dropping i686, simply that arch will no longer support it. I would seriously look at Alpine Linux Openrc and 32 bit yummy!

#64 Re: Installation » Stuck at login » 2017-05-18 13:24:40

Oh man I cannot remember the fix, try removing nv and vesa via pacman..... think this issue was something I had under virtual box too

#65 Re: Installation » Stuck at login » 2017-05-18 00:14:56

Use nomodeset then at login enter ablive (no password), have a feeling it will simply try to start X...

Plan B!

At login enter root (no password) then edit /home/ablive/.bash_profile

#if [[ -z $DISPLAY && ! -e /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 ]]; then
#   exec xinit -- /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp vt7
#fi

Comment out lines as above save and exit root login, then login again as ablive you should be able to then start xorg manually

$ startx

At least then you will get more information on issue (thinking its the xorg drivers not loading)

#66 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-05-15 12:41:21

Sounds more like a font issue? possibly try a different full font.... When you say anything to do with OpenRC does lxterminal as you wish with systemd?

#67 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-05-13 11:15:28

Adding features adds to iso size. Things like nitrogen which needs its own gui toolkit just does not seem worth the effort live. Post install anything needed are easily installed. Had asked for permission to use arch anywhere scripts to achieve this, but as yet I have head nothing from developer.

#68 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-05-10 14:48:14

For summer release I will of course make sure that users are aware of us going systemd free. Certainly on source forge here on forums. To be honest there has not been interest on forums lately. Think they have all gone over to ubuntu know that it uses gnome instead on unity. Read that Apricity has stopped being developed that just leaves the likes of manjaro...

Our battle may soon be over.

#69 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Rc iso » 2017-05-09 13:31:26

See first post have uploaded a new rc version, now includes firefox and tint2 launchers. Next couple of weeks will start on Summer release, OpenRC only!

#71 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-05-01 11:53:09

Update I have added UEFI support thanks to Chris Cromer, need to remove xf86-video-vesa as xorg fails to start but I will upload new version soon. wink

#72 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Share your ArchBang Desktop Thread! » 2017-04-30 05:45:21

Very nice wink maybe I should move tint2 to top of screen

#74 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-28 23:40:48

ArchBang is openbox based has all the applications from the old days and now we have OpenRC.

My change to Netsurf was more about reducing ISO size..

If change anything it is to go Openrc only in the near future

#75 Offtopic » No sudo? » 2017-04-28 00:02:42

Mr Green
Replies: 2
$ machinectl shell

Enter your user password......

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