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#1 Re: Artwork & Screenshots » Share your ArchBang Desktop Thread! » Today 05:45:21

Very nice wink maybe I should move tint2 to top of screen

#3 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-28 23:40:48

ArchBang is openbox based has all the applications from the old days and now we have OpenRC.

My change to Netsurf was more about reducing ISO size..

If change anything it is to go Openrc only in the near future

#4 Offtopic » No sudo? » 2017-04-28 00:02:42

Mr Green
Replies: 2
$ machinectl shell

Enter your user password......

#5 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-26 03:45:48


Now running 'rc' release, features Netsurf for web browser. Installer is now 90% functional [exception being uefi and syslinux issue].

To run under virtualbox post install you do need virtualbox-guest-utils-openrc, select virtualbox-guest-modules-arch from groups options.

Log in as normal user then:

Edit /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist with your nearest servers

sudo nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist


sudo pacman -Syyu

to update

sudo pacman -S virtualbox-guest-utils-openrc

[select arch modules options 2]
Add vboxservice

sudo rc-update add vboxservice


sudo reboot



d3daab51aac9e0c21a1243923f471efb43edf50c00d34a357e5efb0f308a4461  archbang-openrc-rc-260417-x86_64.iso

#6 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Beta iso » 2017-04-25 12:30:13

Update removed hardware clock from installer, you only really have two options UTC or local [Default is UTC]. To change to local you simply edit /etc/conf.d/hwclock

clock="UTC" # simply change to local

Service 'hwclock' added ...

Timezone should now be fixed (have to test)

Do have an issue with syslinux but I know Grub is working fine, looking to get uefi working in the near future.

#7 Re: Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Beta iso » 2017-04-24 12:07:38

Try latest beta installer is close to working, think timezone was the only issue (something I am working on). Also with a VM you will need to load virtualbox-guest-utils-openrc for x to work.

Please bear in mind that Openrc version is very much beta wink

#8 Announcements » ArchBang OpenRC Beta iso » 2017-04-23 04:15:53

Mr Green
Replies: 6 … ng-OpenRC/

4c3f445b790ff659f55a78e7380f7c7fe94d91dfe1358a3dbd38965fb2bd0881  archbang-openrc-beta-220417-x86_64.iso

What works:

Installer [though Hardware Clock option needs fixing]
Networking via network manager
X [useful!]


syslinux [small error]

#9 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-22 09:43:04

Am working my way through installer and should have figured most of issues [x keyboard needs work]. Something I am going to do is switch to Netsurf browser... this should give you an idea why

firefox                 119.94 MiB (179.41 MiB)
Exclusive dependencies:  59.47 MiB
Shared dependencies:    523.03 MiB
Total dependencies:     582.50 MiB (702.44 MiB)

community/netsurf         4.36 MiB (  7.44 MiB)
Exclusive dependencies:   3.08 MiB
Shared dependencies:    357.82 MiB
Total dependencies:     360.90 MiB (365.26 MiB)

A user post-install can install whatever browser they wish...

#10 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-22 06:52:19

Of course, editing the file manually is possible as well to diversify the locale variables.
FILE /etc/env.d/02localeSetting the default system locale in /etc/env.d/02locale


It's also possible, and pretty common especially in a more traditional UNIX environment, to leave the global settings unchanged, i.e. in the C locale. Users can still specify their preferred locale in their own shell RC file:

Simply put, you look at OpenRC section and then read what files need editing... commands that are shown are mostly of course related to Gentoo to make changes easier. It is a good source of information which you will not find on Arch wiki.

#11 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-22 01:17:58

Fast-install may work, however I did try current installer and it failed. Have added normal abinstall but it will need work to make it Openrc friendly. Automounting thought was ok, again something I will look at...

Might seem odd for an arch based distro but Gentoo wiki is a good resource for Openrc

Take a look in /etc/env.d/02locale wink

#12 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-21 09:31:51

@seventh I do know where it is. I took the photo in Wales (UK) on mount snowden... would certainly wait until I update installer still needs work!!

At some point will add tips for improving boot time, namely removing unwanted services and a minor change in rc.conf.

Need to get a ToDo list started really want to change look and theme, would also like to reduce iso size.

Am very tempted to switch ArchBang to OpenRC only but will wait and see what responses we get.

#13 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-20 12:36:23

Let me know what you did to fix lxterminal then I will take a look, thank you wink

#14 Re: SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-19 14:16:56

Tomorrow night I will upload if I can, still very much beta. Installer will need work, but for now testing live would really help.

#16 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-16 12:55:05

Am on vacation at the moment, last thing I did before leaving was set up a 50gb partition for Openrc build. Checked your screenshot and might alter keyboard shortcuts to something in line with yours.

Thinking of a way to add gparted to main menu live...

#17 SystemD free projects » ArchBang OpenRC release project updates... » 2017-04-13 13:59:36

Mr Green
Replies: 19

I am going to start work again on an OpenRC release of ArchBang. Why? well I think now that i686 is going to be dropped by Archlinux it maybe possible to have free time to build a systemd free version.

Had in the past used a VM to create OpenRC version but that was slow and difficult to test and upload so my plan is to set aside some hard drive space for a real install (and then remove systemd).

My thoughts are that I can install any desktop,window manager, editor (vi or nano) or anything else I chose... so why not an different init system?

Will state as I have in the past that I am not against systemd (use it daily) it is supplied free of charge (and am grateful for all the hard work of Archlinux devs....) so I cannot really complain. They would argue 'if you do not like it use something else!' which again is true.

Anyway stay tuned for some 'beta' systemd free action ;-)

#18 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-09 13:06:40

With virtualbox you do need guest modules, which include drivers for X  and it worked fine.

Live iso works without any issues.

#19 Re: Pacman/Packages » Weird thing » 2017-04-09 11:23:58

You need

makepkg -si

That should install required deps and build package... … he_package

#20 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-09 00:53:28

Generally we figure that a user either may not have an internet connection or cannot set up wifi for whatever reason. A user can at least set up a disc and install a system without any network connection. This has always been how ArchBang installer works. We do not rely on a network connection to install.

That said Archlinux is very much a network based distribution, simply to keep system bleeding edge and allow a user to install packages.

Shipping with a smaller browser live such as netsurf does save quite a bit of space.

My only other option would be a 'light' version that simply had a desktop with installer  and some means of installing 'missing' packages live...

pacman -Syyu firefox --noconfirm

Maybe from a menu driven script or via openbox menu...

#21 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-08 00:58:28

Tint2conf added.

Usually switch to netsurf as a lighter browser for rc or beta builds. Heavy apps include firefox, grub, gparted and now gvfs...

Must start work on Openrc version....

#22 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-03 12:53:59

Might look at a way of adding tint2conf to menu (as it's installed anyway). In a similar light things like obkey and obmenu could be added. Without checking I do not think #! has a dynamic menu.

From my point of view things that add weight but have no real benefit live are what I try to avoid, Firefox is a case in point. It requires both gtk2 and gtk3 toolkits. If I could run say gtk3 only I could lose around 50mbs from iso. This ultimately means more gui goodness wink

#23 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-03 00:47:54

Obconf and lxappearance are included live, just not part of main menu (maybe need a sub menu for them!). Not sure if I want to add nitrogen live, it drags in another gui toolkit and does not seem to make much sense live. Post install perhaps? wink ... not heard of conky-manager again it is worth loading live?

Post-install things you have posted maybe part of lilo script....

Edit Added Settings menu with Obconf and Lxappearance

#24 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-02 03:53:59

Well it something that could certainly be added to post-install script, did notice that !# does include things like libreoffice, vlc etc...

This is what our installer was based on (well most of it!), the lilo script is kind of the way forward post install

#25 Announcements » ArchBang Rc release with some minor added extras. » 2017-04-02 03:16:04

Mr Green
Replies: 0

Uploaded 'rc' version of ArchBang … chBang-Rc/

222f1e61dcacecd6d2c8aac0506e3a43cb9c288942dc3d922ef1f177efcfce83  archbang-rc-0417-x86_64.iso

Key changes include:

Updated packages
Packer install script
Installer is now in main openbox menu
Shortcut keys back in conky
Switched background

#26 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-02 03:12:42

Uploading new 'rc' version with of course updated packages, installer from main menu, packer install script and of course key shortcuts in conky wink

#27 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-02 00:09:00

It has always been a trade off when building iso to keep it within 700mbs. Over the years the iso has grown from around 450 to now 600mbs+. Perfectly aware that with usb drive/sticks there is no real limit but it does take time to build iso and upload it, reducing this helps me quite a bit. With i686 being dropped by Arch my work is halved wink.

Back on topic....

We can make ArchBang feel more like Crunchbang, it was more the fact that we are based on openbox rather than bigger desktops like xfarce! or mate.

Post-install script does sound like a good idea, what to include?

Tried so hard not to do much hand holding with users, they do need to learn Arch to get the best from it.

Monara never heard of it

#28 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-01 13:45:05

Downloaded crunch++ see what all the fuss is about, packer install will be added to next release....

#29 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-04-01 04:42:38

Reflector needs python, something we do not ship live. However subject to a network connection do not see why you could not load it live.... need to find or create packer script (aur tools) post install.

#30 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-03-31 12:13:36

Yes a simple sed line should work, will of course test before release. Adding back in onscreen keyboard shortcuts (conky)

#31 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-03-31 07:11:18

Installer added to main menu for next release, keybinds will return in conky

#32 Re: Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-03-30 12:27:22

Keybinds are in openbox menu, can easily add them back into conky. Installer used to be part of main menu but it was a pain to remove it post install. Again something I could look at for summer release. We did have packer install script (post install) live it is not something I would add as you need base-devel packages.

A fully updateable (if that is the word!) could be done by installing to usb device then simply updating it to have the latest and greatest packages on the go.

#33 Announcements » Quiet on forums so thoughts on Summer release » 2017-03-29 11:02:29

Mr Green
Replies: 32

Been very quiet on forums over past couple of weeks, my thoughts are on summer release and anything I can add or remove to make it even better. Still very much on the fence about making ArchBang systemd free, while I want to go down the OpenRC route (and have no problem in doing so) concerned of effect on new users coming to ArchBang.

Will say that i686 version of ArchBang will no longer be available there seems little need for it (and looking at downloads it reflects this).

Might put out an rc update very soon if only to get kernel more up to date.

#34 Re: Installation » spring release question » 2017-03-19 01:36:10

I simply remove service from /etc/systemd/system, the directory is used by systemd to start services there automatically.

Load up lxdm start and enable it service then edit /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf as required.

There are of course other login managers available wink

#35 Re: Hardware & Multimedia » Gstreamer-base-plugins problem » 2017-03-18 02:12:53

Looks like many packages are being removed as they are not being updated/maintained.... … 28638.html

#36 Re: Installation » spring release question » 2017-03-18 02:11:02

ArchBang is basic because it was always meant to reflect the mighty CrunchBang distribution. Applications are kept to a bare minimum to allow a user to try out Archlinux or install and then create their own system. We do not ship with lxdm, basically we use an autostart method based on getty (take a look at /etc/systemd/system) then X is started via bash_profile.

We always welcome comments and suggestions, any additional packages or changes that could be made to make ArchBang even better.

#37 Re: Pacman/Packages » Pacman fails to run » 2017-03-16 14:34:23

You should always check what package owns lzo file before deleting it, there could be a number of reasons why file is already in system.

Have you tried to reinstall lzo? looks like it is required by cairo...

Did you force or install anything that was not via pacman? or from aur?

#39 SystemD free projects » OpenRC guide for going systemd free [Work in Progress] » 2017-03-11 02:49:10

Mr Green
Replies: 0

You will a wealth of information here

This guide assumes you are comfortable working in a terminal and for the sake of testing I would recommend running inside a virtual machine (Virtualbox).

In this guide you will be able to convert a stock ArchBang install to OpeRC and remove systemd in the process.

1) Edit /etc/pacman.conf and add the following...

SigLevel  = Never
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-openrc

SigLevel  = Never
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-openrc

2) Create openrc mirrorlist-openrc

## Arch Linux OpenRC repository mirrorlist
## Generated on 2016-06-09

Server =$repo/$arch
Server =$repo/$arch
Server =$repo/$arch

3) Update repos and prepare for OpenRC install

 sudo pacman -Syyu

#40 Re: Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-03-06 10:14:34

Starting to think there is an issue with Grub, going to test under VM then report back. Hopefully syslinux is ok, at least then you may have more of a chance to install and have a running system to work from. Be mindful that gpt devices are let say more complicated to set up.

Following your grub guide I got install working under Virtualbox, did have to load virtualbox-guest-utils to get xorg to work.... Going to check installer

#41 Re: Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-03-05 04:42:17

Not seen or heard from the wandering sage Oliver for quite sometime... think he has gone over to the dark side Windows 10!

#42 Re: Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-03-05 04:32:20

Used to have may more groups set up out of the box, since systemd takes over everything took most of them away...

#43 Re: Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-03-05 04:19:08

Not sure fully on pcmanfm support, spacefm would mount external drives out of the box. I personally use command line for mounting, know there are many options...

Might look at adding udevil, pmount is handy via command line.

Only reason I switched was the fact SpaceFM has gone into aur... not impossible to add but does create more work during iso build.

#44 Re: Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-03-03 23:48:19

Sorry wanted to get isos up, will check guide and edit my first post.... figured screenshot would say more than words wink

#45 Announcements » Blown away by..... » 2017-03-03 01:38:06

Mr Green
Replies: 0

Over 1000+ downloads on new release in 2 days an all time record... Want to thank you all for your time and support.. wink

Gives me the drive I need to get working on Summer release which is going to be even better !!!!!

#46 Re: Openbox » Adding power options tint2 » 2017-03-03 01:28:09

Think if you combine launcher with oblogout then its win win. May look at this as an option in next release, possibly a simple menu..... … n-openbox/

Install gxmessage then above will work


gxmessage "Are you sure you want to shut down your computer?" -center -title "Take action" -font "Sans bold 10" -default "Cancel" -buttons "_Cancel":1,"_Log out":2,"_Reboot":3,"_Shut down":4 >/dev/null

case $? in
echo "Exit";;
killall openbox;;
sudo shutdown -r now;;
sudo shutdown -h now;;

You may want to change case options, openbox --exit, systemctl poweroff .....

Just giving more ideas wink

#47 Re: Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-03-02 01:46:36

Just checked downloads 500+ in less than 24 hours a new record for us.... wink

#48 Re: Openbox » Adding power options tint2 » 2017-03-02 01:45:59

Take a look in ~/.config/tint2/tint2rc file, think I left launcher code.

# Launchers
#launcher_icon_theme = hicolor
#launcher_padding = 5 0 10
#launcher_background_id = 0
#launcher_icon_size = 20
#launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop
#launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm.desktop
#launcher_item_app = /usr/share/applications/l3afpad.desktop

You would need to create a .desktop file and or script to allow you to do it.

Quick search

#49 Announcements » ArchBang Spring Release March 2017 » 2017-03-01 02:25:09

Mr Green
Replies: 17

Just uploaded ArchBang Spring Release


512aff80e1e111a39a92dcde884fba62a6bdd9409dd44d7717a45558febe5b0d  archbang-0317-i686.iso
2e78aaa0f76c3d9fd1f68c64b550e6931116420e6fd79bfcff9130c8b519b61e  archbang-0317-x86_64.iso

Openbox, Tint2 and Conky are back. PcmanFM replaces SpaceFM as it has gone into AUR.

Added Deadbeef and Volumeicon for some playing MP3s or streaming internet radio.


Please feel free to comment and post feedback in this thread.

As always any support you can give helps greatly towards hosting and further iso versions..

Enjoy wink

Mr Green

#50 Re: Announcements » Do not enter Top Secret iso based on Alpine » 2017-02-28 13:38:39

Quite a bit of work to do before I can get something out that has all the required components. Currently I have Openbox and a background. Still need to work on wifi or getting network manager.

Am hoping to get a new version of ArchBang OpenRC out at some point.

#51 Re: Hardware & Multimedia » Can´t setup wifi on a ibm thinkpad z60m » 2017-02-27 00:57:15

Only thing I could find is in Russian

Scroll down to wifi section might be of some help.

#52 Re: Pacman/Packages » Problems with updating a fresh archbang install » 2017-02-25 02:28:03

Post install as seventh has stated pacman keys do need to be configured. This was done to make new install as 'arch like' as possible. Live keys are loaded to allow a user to use pacman, mainly for testing or system maintenance.

#54 Re: Pacman/Packages » Problems with updating a fresh archbang install » 2017-02-24 23:37:09

Edit mirror list for local server then set up pacman-keys...

#55 Announcements » Spring release is coming... » 2017-02-22 04:57:55

Mr Green
Replies: 1

Early next week ArchBang will get its first release of 2017. Many old favourites will return. SpaceFM however has gone into AUR, this means we will run pcmanfm for the time being. ArchBang is based on the ideals of CrunchBang so Openbox is back with Tint2 and Conky.

In line with Archlinux this will be the on the last i686 isos, this will give me more time to work on an OpenRC version (more on that soon).

My Alpine desktop iso is coming along but it is no where near ready for a release, still lacks a panel, browser, network manager and quite a few other required applications.

Managed to get around half of hosting costs thank you wink ...

Wiki is not running at the moment not sure yet what the problem is, possibly a database issue....

Mr Green

#56 Re: Introductions » Newcomer » 2017-02-21 01:00:21

At the moment our wiki seems to be down, it could have given most of the information you required. Hopefully i will be able to get it fixed in the near future.

Welcome to ArchBang

#57 Re: Introductions » Former #!'er » 2017-02-17 00:21:14

Things have been quiet of late, think more users are turning to the more vitamin rich distros.

Glad you managed to find your way here.

Welcome to ArchBang wink

#58 Announcements » Spring release with have some old friends return » 2017-02-14 11:34:03

Mr Green
Replies: 2

Openbox and Tint2 will return for Spring release, while I have no problem running JWM think it is best that ArchBang stays true to its roots.

Alpine iso development is painfully slow but hopefully soon I can show something for my work.

Mr Green

#59 Re: Introductions » Gday from Australia » 2017-02-12 03:21:59

If you get stuck in console again under Virtualbox, git host key (right ctrl) and F3 then it will give you console login. Then you can edit /etc/default/grub then rebuild boot menu with

sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

#60 Re: Introductions » Gday from Australia » 2017-02-09 00:37:10

Wondering if this is related … ramebuffer

Certainly not had this before and I use virtual box for testing...

#61 Re: Announcements » Do not enter Top Secret iso based on Alpine » 2017-02-09 00:21:59

Have got auto login working now just need to start X. Need to get undeveloped and dubs working too. Noticed that I am still running mdev.

Still got some work to do to get anything near what ArchBang does out of the box....

#62 Re: Announcements » Do not enter Top Secret iso based on Alpine » 2017-02-08 01:18:00

Thing is Alpine does not use agetty, busybox has getty. Found an article that allows getty to run a script that might work. If I build Alpine-desktop ISO lxdm works (although is slow). Slim could be another option but according to arch wiki project is dead.

#64 Re: Introductions » Gday from Australia » 2017-02-07 14:40:34

Pacman keys should be loaded on boot 'live', once installed you do have to set them up (as above). Not sure what grub error is, usually test with syslinux. Anyway glad it is finally working.

Welcome to ArchBang wink

#65 Re: Announcements » Do not enter Top Secret iso based on Alpine » 2017-02-07 14:37:44

I am finding getting a live Alpine system up and running very difficult, do not fully understand its workings (which does not help). What is interesting is the 'live' part is simply a layer.

Something like this

Base system ... which is started by initfs
Apks are then loaded from a directory
Overlay --- system files [/etc & /home]

Problem I have is although apks are 'there' they are not loaded on boot (still have no idea why). All I do know it has something to do with /etc/apk/world...

I get get system to boot, manually start X (lxdm fails) but I cannot get my jwm config to load.

Alpine is amazing just for how small and fast it is, but I do find it frustrating in setting up.

Maybe it is more suited to servers, docker and simple ssh machines...

#68 Announcements » Do not enter Top Secret iso based on Alpine » 2017-02-05 11:04:43

Mr Green
Replies: 9

I have uploaded my first Alpine Linux based iso for testing, it is very rough so do not expect too much. Would be interested in feedback based on if you think a ArchBang style iso based on Alpine Linux would be of any interest.

Key points:

Jwm window manager
Openrc init...

You will find i686 iso on our sourceforge page.

Am hoping the lovely and very wonderful Chris Cromer could give me some pointers on Openrc (autologin for one)

#69 Re: Installation » [Solved] Change i686 to i86_64 » 2017-02-05 00:37:54

You would more than likely have to reinstall, certainly it would be a better option on a modern 64 machine. You /home directory could easily be backed up and reused. Make a list of your current installed packages and your good to go wink

#70 Re: Offtopic » Alpine Linux » 2017-02-04 03:58:04

Once I can get jwm to autologin then i may have something to upload, still not fully up to speed on alpine 'world' file.


live user password
theme including background
addition of useful applications

#71 Re: Feedback » ArchBang ISO with JWM » 2017-02-03 14:46:54

My thoughts are to keep ArchBang openbox based and upcoming Alpine release based on Jwm. Will get something uploaded hopefully soon.

#72 Re: Arch Discussions » Ending 32bit support » 2017-02-03 14:44:44

@Chris it will certainly half my workload too wink

#74 Re: Feedback » ArchBang ISO with JWM » 2017-02-03 00:54:39

Take a look at

It is not dynamic, it does not update menu when you add applications but of course when run again or reloaded it does work.

Although wiki does not show jwm it will work wink

Just something I have not got around to adding.

#75 Re: Feedback » ArchBang ISO with JWM » 2017-02-02 00:44:00

Do need to work on jwm to get it more like openbox. Window issue could be down to a config issue. Might be worth opening gparted from installer ( as an option). Generally installers are a pain to maintain, maybe we should look at one of gui ones currently available.

Jwm does not include a dynamic menu (yet) something i need to add at some point.

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